Dear Karen and Friends, I agree with you totally, it is completely unfare!As I said, in a previous message, when I was using JAWS version 9, and received version 10 as part of my SMA, having heard how bad it was, I never even took the JAWS Program CD out of the mailer, just through it into a box in my closet!
And it is still there in the unopened CD mailer! I waited till JAWS 11 came out before I moved from JAWS 9 to JAWS 11! With Best Regards, Alan Miami, Florida Alan Dicey, President United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!"United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: http://AmericanBlindChess.org
----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:51 AM Subject: Re: the virtual ribbon
cy I agree with you and believe the blind are being penalized big time. I ask myself, would a seeing person put up with this. why could you not just purchase the current version. why do you have to pay for older versions you did not even want or need. Karen----- Original Message ----- From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:28 AM Subject: RE: the virtual ribbonIt is funny that FS handles Open Book updates differently.Regardless of how many versions you are behind the cost is, I believe, only$150 to get current. Several years ago I had to bring my JAWS up to date and I think it was something like $500. What a bunch of nonsense. Cy -----Original Message-----From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf Karen Hughes Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 6:15 AM To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: the virtual ribboni too did not update so thought i would not have to pay for something i did not use. found out different when charged four hundred and fifty dollars. i had to pay for the new update plus the ones i did not use. buyer beware. whosaid life was fair. karen----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Thullen" <gdandet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 11:18 PM Subject: Re: the virtual ribbonI strongly urge you to buy the SMA if at all possible. I skipped a versionand the cost was ridiculous. Don't forget, the more versions you skip, themore money it costs. As freedomscientific told me "just because you didn'tupgrade, didn't mean that technology didn't move on." Dawn----- Original Message ----- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 5:38 PM Subject: Re: the virtual ribbonAlan,You'll likely wait until you're in a pine box if you hope to get the bugs out. Cynically speaking (as I'm always reluctant to do) each new versionwill have new bugs and some old bugs remaining, ad infinitum . And in case you're not aware, failure to renew an SMA before a major versioncomes out will cost you a whole heck of a lot more money. I'll let other chime in on their experience. My advice is to purchase the SMA for 12 and13 and wait for 13. I skipped version 10, for example, as it made me ill. Dave Composed on a Dell Latitude 630 in the general vicinity of my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Dicey" <adicey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 14:20 Subject: the virtual ribbon Dear Kenny, Thanks very much for that kind offer, but I only have JAWS 11.I suppose I need to look at getting JAWS 12, but since I do not have anymore SMA's, and I am hoping they will get all the bugs out of that version before I purchase it, well I will wait a bit more!Besides, I understand that the "virtual ribbon" is not a total "fix", itonly helps out a bit, is that correct? Wow, I have been using the JAWS Menu bars since 1999, with JAWS 3.3!And although I feel I am making a little progress getting the hang of it,I see it will be a slow learning curb! A completely different thing! Thanks again! With Best Regards, Alan Miami, Florida Alan Dicey, President United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA "Yes, Blind and Visually Impaired People, Can, and Do, Play Chess!" United States Braille Chess Association Home Page: http://AmericanBlindChess.org----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenny Peyatt" <p.wildcat1234@xxxxxxxxx>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 3:51 PM Subject: the virtual ribbonHi allan The virtual ribbon is a jaws 12 feature. To turn it on in jaws12 You go to the setttings center. 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