Re: Anyone out there happy with Jfw 6.1?

In a rare case, these days, of defending FS, there was a bug-reporting 
process. Many pwople were too lazy to use it and just used this list, but 
this list, never being run by FS, was never meant to be a bug-reporting 
list.

Bruce

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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bill wrote:

> john hate totell you this the public betas that f s had where not really
> much of a public beta in the first place.
>
>
> sure they released it and after the release they fixed some of the known
> bugs, but fixed very few bugs if any reported on the e mail list by end users.
>
> in fact when they had several patches, not uncommon, the next patch
> reported bug list did not even mention the bugs found on the list.
>
> guess what f s from appearance was never listening much to its user base
> from what i can see.
> at least not the users on the list.
> if they had been the bugs discoverred by the list would have been in the
> bug list of the following patch.
>
> of course what does one expect of a 2 week public beta.
>
> about what f s deliverred.
>
> some of g w public betas have been over 2 months by comparison.
>
>
> gene your comment about 6.1 being about the same, well isn't the idea
> behind a .1 patch supposed to be fixes.
>
> so when it appears and no fixes are their what do you think folks are going
> to say, that 6.1 is lovely and improved when its not.
>
>
> no their going to tell the truth, no fixes and a disappointment because it
> lacks fixes.
>
> john you noted that those bitching seem to be some of the same folks.
>
> well here is a further note, many of those bitching happen to own both
> screen readers.
>
> or at least some of us do.
>
> including me.
> know severals do because seem some of them on the other list, and some
> noted it here.
>
> so after seeing how g w micro attacks bugs in its public beta and does a
> much better job one has to ask how a company with about one third the
> programmers can do what f s can not.
>
>
> g w only has 2 programmers.
>
> f s has soldover 100,000 copies of jfw and has much more revenue to fix
> bugs than the competition.
>
> unfortunately their not doing as good as the competition with fixing bugs,
> so because we who own the competition see that a better job can be done, so
> we point it out.
>
> so i know that its simply not true these issues can not be addressed
> because windows is so complicated.
>
> true not all bugs will be solved in any piece of software, but i know of no
> other company that introduces patches that fix nothing or very little  as
> recent versions of jfw patches have.
>
>
>
> bill
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