Hi cher,
I have no solution, and this won't make you feel much better to hear, but
what you describe is another of the many Jaws 8 problems I experience
regularly. Often, when I'm reading a long email using Say All, or even
the
text of a news article on the Web with IE 7 and in other contexts as
well,
Jaws 8 will do things like simply stop speaking, or sometimes keep
repeating
a line or two instead of moving forward. Sometimes an Insert Escape
command
to refresh the screen helps,and sometimes it doesn't. It hasn't occurred
to
me to cycle out of the application and back into tit on the Task Bar with
Alt Tab, but now I'll try that just to see if it has any effect.
This isn't the issue I originally mentioned as I began this thread, but
it's
certainly another on a long list of bad things Jaws 8 is doing, not only
in
OE but elsewhere, as well. For me, that is.
Today I mean to switch my shortcut command for launching Jaws back to
connecting with Jaws 7., while I decide whether to invest some time in
writing a coherent message to FS listing all my Jaws 8 focus issues or
just
wait for this update they say is soon to be posted.
Again, sorry not to be able to offer helpful suggestions.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cher Bosch" <Cher.Bosch@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: An Outlook Express Jaws 8 issue-- one among
manypeculiarities
I'm losing focus when editing with OE6 and JAWS8. I get along pretty
well reading, but let me do some serious editing, and "Katy bar the
dooor!". Once I lose focus and JAWS quits reading correctly, refreshing
the screen or even alt-tabbing does not seem to have much ability to fix
it.
Cher
RAWest <rawest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 02/02/07 4:22 PM >>>
Yardbird
Just a thought.
Do you have power toys installed on your pc?
If so open tweakui and on general go to focus.
See if the prevent applications from steeling focus box is checked if
so
uncheck it.
Maybe this could resolve your problem.
Again just a thought.
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "G.W. Cox" <gwcox2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: An Outlook Express Jaws 8 issue-- one among many
peculiarities
So you look the guy who confronted you with "You gotta issue with me?"
up and down, decide he's a member of the Cornerlords or Taylor Street
gang, shake your hed.
"What's wrong, you too good to debate with me, or sumpin?"
My plumber had an even better euphemism for problem. "I have to tell
you
about a circumstance in the guest bathroom."
I think as long as people keep telling Freedom Scientific that they
have
an issue with such and such, they won't be taken seriously. In fact I
once told Tracy that I didn't have a issue but a problem. He or she
replied with a counter-fusilade of three uses of issue.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: An Outlook Express Jaws 8 issue-- one among many
peculiarities
Hey Joseph,
thanks for the sympathy and the reminder to work "focus issue" into my
reports or complaints. Yeah, this is just one example of many such
things I
have with jaws 8. It's nearly crippled by this sort of problem,. It
never
occurred to me that it might be HTML related; one reason is that in
fact
I've taken pains to set my email preferences for the two emails I
mentioned,
from two newspapers' online editions, sent to me in plain text, and
they
are. So maybe it's not just about HTML.
I'm telling you, I can't see any good reason to not do as you've done,
and
go back to working smoothly on my computer without this and all the
other
stuff that happens and makes me feel like my computer's having a
nervous
breakdown or my virtual cursor is stuck in mud. After all, I installed
and
tried out the SAPI 5 Say All voices, decided I didn't care for their
performance (though I did develop a major crush on the voice Karen,
I'll
admit) and right now I can't remember what other important advances
Jaws
8
is supposed to represent. I mean embody. Sorry, tired.
I think I'll do that, just go back to my Jaws 7.0 (I never bothered
with
the
7.1 update after I hear so many complaints on this list about it) and
get
back to normal functionality without the hassle. Though I do hope
someone
has reported some of this stuff and that the coming update will
reflect
some
effort at fixing at least some of it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: An Outlook Express Jaws 8 issue-- one among many
peculiarities
Hi there,
This is like third or fourth time that a
focus issue with JAWS has found another
victim. Yes, this is my theory: that it
might be caused by focus tracking issues.
Unfortunately, like other souls, I have no
fix that might help. Recent emails
pertaining to issues such as this one is best
described as "focus tracking issue." (another
reason for me to see Freedom Scientific staff
at CSUN 2007, especially Eric) This is
another reason why I'm not using 8.0 even
though I installed it (apart from several
issues with Internet Sound Schemes that
failed to work with 8.0). It is always HTML
related apps. Repairing JAWS won't do a
trick (as one of the members stated; on my
system, it started with 7.1 - even the latest
update for 7.1 didn't fix it despite Freedom
Scientific's claim that it has been fixed).
I hope February update for JAWS 8.0 fixes
these problems.
Cheers,
Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:13:18 -0800
Subject: Re: An Outlook Express Jaws 8
issue-- one among many peculiarities
LOL. Sure I have, Bruce. But a repair
didn't change any of a whole laundry
list of bad stuff this version is doing.
It's really awful. You know what
fixes it up perfectly? Unloading Jaws 8 and
launching Jaws 7! But that's not
quite tohe solution I'm hoping for.
Arghh.
prefectly?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx
To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: An Outlook Express Jaws 8
issue-- one among many peculiarities
I have never experienced anything remotely
like this. Have you trie d
arepair of JAWS?
Bruce
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On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Yardbird wrote:
Hi all,
I'm not anticipating that anyone is likely
to have a fix for this problem,
which is just one out of a long list of Jaws
8 misbehaviors that I'm
making
a list of so that I can send FS a coherent
report about the weird stuff
this
version does on my system. by which I don't
mean my digestive system,
although I'd have to say that the stress
quotient from having to deal with
this stuff must be causing me some of the
heartburn I've been suffering
lately. Anyway, it sounds dramatic to say
so.
But here's just one interesting misbehavior
among many: When I have an
email
open with active links in it, such as I get
each morning from the New York
times and Los Angeles times with selections
of headlines with links for
going to read them online, or when someone
posts a helpful message about
some information available at some blind
tech site, and I come to that
link
with my cursor and Enter on it, Internet
Explorer properly launches if it
isn't already running, and the page that URL
belongs to loads. I can hear
this in progress by reading the OE status
line with Insert Page Down.
so far, all that's normal. But here's what
happens that is really weird,
if
I stay in the open email and don't get out
of there immediately to go into
the browser: Jaws begins to read downward in
the email from the point
where
I clicked on that link, and won't stop
unless I catch it, hit Control to
shut Reed up, and then arrow back up to
where I meant to leave the cursor
at
that link before proceeding down the email.
Jaws just takes off on its own
and tries to go on reading the rest of the
email. I've never had this
happen
before, and it took me some time before I
understood clearly what was up
and
learned to ignore the confusing distraction
of hearing this stuff while
trying to figure out if the Web page was
loading. it's even caused me to
lose my place in the email because, check
this out, I might stop Jaws from
reading the email, but then it starts
talking about the opening Web page,
as
if I'd been taken to it the way you are when
clicking on a link in an
email
launches the browser. But in these cases,
the browser will already have
been running, and in fact I'm still with the
open email on screen in front
of me. But nonetheless, Jaws is happily
reporting that the page is 20 per
cent, 24 per cent, 50 per cent, 100 per cent
loaded and then that it has
nine frames and 360 links. While I'm still
actually in the open email.
It's tricky for me to figure this out, but
with my limited vision, I was
able to look carefully at the screen and
realize that what was on it was
still Outlook Express with an open message.
Until I figured it out, I was
doing stuff like pressing Control Home to go
to the top of the loading Web
page, which sounded as if Jaws were just
reading down it without my
consent,
already. And of course, it turned out I was
pressing Control Home in the
open email, and losing my place in it, which
is a pain.
So, I hope this sounds amusing, because I
admit it's pretty goofy. But
what
I want to know is, has anybody else
experienced this particular thing? Or
is it just me, as we say? Just kidding. I
don't think there's anything the
matter with my system and its configuration,
Jaws-wise.
So?
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