Re: An Outlook Express Jaws 8 issue-- one among many peculiarities

  • From: Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:28:55 -0800

Hi there,
This is like third or fourth time that a focus issue with JAWS has found another victim. Yes, this is my theory: that it might be caused by focus tracking issues. Unfortunately, like other souls, I have no fix that might help. Recent emails pertaining to issues such as this one is best described as "focus tracking issue." (another reason for me to see Freedom Scientific staff at CSUN 2007, especially Eric) This is another reason why I'm not using 8.0 even though I installed it (apart from several issues with Internet Sound Schemes that failed to work with 8.0). It is always HTML related apps. Repairing JAWS won't do a trick (as one of the members stated; on my system, it started with 7.1 - even the latest update for 7.1 didn't fix it despite Freedom Scientific's claim that it has been fixed). I hope February update for JAWS 8.0 fixes these problems.
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yardbird" <yardbird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:13:18 -0800
Subject: Re: An Outlook Express Jaws 8
issue-- one among many peculiarities

LOL. Sure I have, Bruce. But a repair
didn't change any of a whole laundry
list of bad stuff this version is doing.
It's really awful.  You know what
fixes it up perfectly? Unloading Jaws 8 and
launching Jaws 7! But that's not
quite tohe solution I'm hoping for.

Arghh.
prefectly?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <DogRiver@xxxxxxxx
To: "JFW List" <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: An Outlook Express Jaws 8
issue-- one among many peculiarities


I have never experienced anything remotely
like this.  Have you trie d
arepair of JAWS?

Bruce

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On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Yardbird wrote:

Hi all,
I'm not anticipating that anyone is likely
to have a fix for this problem,
which is just one out of a long list of Jaws
8 misbehaviors that I'm
making
a list of so that I can send FS a coherent
report about the weird stuff
this
version does on my system. by which I don't
mean my digestive system,
although I'd have to say that the stress
quotient from having to deal with
this stuff must be causing me some of the
heartburn I've been suffering
lately. Anyway, it sounds dramatic to say
so.

But here's just one interesting misbehavior
among many: When I have an
email
open with active links in it, such as I get
each morning from the New York
times and Los Angeles times with selections
of headlines with links for
going to read them online, or when someone
posts a helpful message about
some information available at some blind
tech site, and I come to that
link
with my cursor and Enter on it, Internet
Explorer properly launches if it
isn't already running, and the page that URL
belongs to loads.  I can hear
this in progress by reading the OE status
line with Insert Page Down.

so far, all that's normal. But here's what
happens that is really weird,
if
I stay in the open email and don't get out
of there immediately to go into
the browser: Jaws begins to read downward in
the email from the point
where
I clicked on that link, and won't stop
unless I catch it, hit Control to
shut Reed up, and then arrow back up to
where I meant to leave the cursor
at
that link before proceeding down the email.
Jaws just takes off on its own
and tries to go on reading the rest of the
email.  I've never had this
happen
before, and it took me some time before I
understood clearly what was up
and
learned to ignore the confusing distraction
of hearing this stuff while
trying to figure out if the Web page was
loading.  it's even caused me to
lose my place in the email because, check
this out, I might stop Jaws from
reading the email, but then it starts
talking about the opening Web page,
as
if I'd been taken to it the way you are when
clicking on a link in an
email
launches the browser. But in these cases,
the  browser will already have
been running, and in fact I'm still with the
open email on screen in front
of me. But nonetheless, Jaws is happily
reporting that the page is 20 per
cent, 24 per cent, 50 per cent, 100 per cent
loaded and then that it has
nine frames and 360 links. While I'm still
actually in the open email.

It's tricky for me to figure this out, but
with my limited vision, I was
able to look carefully at the screen and
realize that what was on it was
still Outlook Express with an open message.
Until I figured it out, I was
doing stuff like pressing Control Home to go
to the top of the loading Web
page, which sounded as if Jaws were just
reading down it without my
consent,
already. And of course, it turned out I was
pressing Control Home in the
open email, and losing my place in it, which
is a pain.

So, I hope this sounds amusing, because I
admit it's pretty goofy.  But
what
I want to know is, has anybody else
experienced this particular thing? Or
is it just me, as we say? Just kidding. I
don't think there's anything the
matter with my system and its configuration,
Jaws-wise.

So?

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