Re: Alternatives to Adobe reader that are jaws friendly
- From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 19:58:35 -0500
yes, the purpose of pdf xchange reader and all the other readers out there is
to do away with the need to use Adobe reader. That's what I would like to do,
delete it from my system entirely, not use a new version, etc.
I apologise if it seems like I went on a tirade; I do appreciate Dave's
response, but this limitation to a specific piece of software bothers me and it
is not something that those who do not use screenreaders have to contend with.
We won't be on a level playing field until we have the same level of choice. I
realise adobe put work into accessibility, but so did Apple and I do not want
to support their products either. I asked what people on this list had
experience with using other software because I do not want to fiddle around
with programmes trying to figure out whether they are accessible or not, how
much so, and currently have little time or desire to write in to independent
companies criticising their design and suggesting how they could make it
better, nor do I necessarily have the technical knowhow required to make
constructive suggestions. If nobody on the list at all has any interest in such
things, that's fine, but it irks me a little that if I'm going to ask on the
list specifically for alternatives to adobe reader, people are going to suggest
adobe reader!
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: RE: Alternatives to Adobe reader that are jaws friendly
Can a program like PDF Exchange Viewer be used independently of Adobe Reader?
PDF is a format created by Adobe. I ask out of ignorance. Still, David gave you
a good and constructive response. The problems you're having with Adobe Reader,
other than its size, are ones many of us no longer experience. There's been a
lot of good information passed along on this list about how best to use it.
If you want to object to the accessibility of a program like PDF Exchange
Viewer, take it up with the company that makes it. Adobe appears to have put a
lot of work into making its PDF files accessible to visually impaired people,
and I for one appreciate it. The days when I could hardly handle PDF files at
all were bleak.
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From: jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jfw-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 5:01 PM
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Adobe reader that are jaws friendly
Thanks. I do appreciate that, but as I said, I am looking for alternatives.
It isn't right that we jaws users are stuck with certain applications, but
that's a discussion of a whole other sort.
----- Original Message -----
From: David
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Alternatives to Adobe reader that are jaws friendly
well, I find that;
adobe 9.exe, works quite well,
you also can use a OCR program like kurzweil.
I find adobe 10x a little flaky, however as I indicated, adobe 9 works fine.
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 4:06 PM
Subject: Alternatives to Adobe reader that are jaws friendly
Hello everyone.
So I really hate adobe reader. It's ridiculously huge when all I want to
do is read text, installs a speed launcher in memory that I don't want, and
crashes almost every time I close it. There are a number of other programmes
out there that sensible people use, like PDF XChange viewer, but I haven't
heard much from jaws users on this subject. This list is pretty much my only
contact with the screenreading community in general and I don't really have the
time or inclination to try a bunch of programmes until I find one that works. I
know adobe reader has special accessibility features and so abandoning their
horrible software might not be as easy for us as it is for sighted users. Any
thoughts? Thanks.
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