Re: Admin:Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.

  • From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:21:55 -0500

Um, if you'd actually take the time to read all of the posts.  You would 
have seen that I did apologize?
And attacking a member on list is a very pore way for a moderator to behave. 
I would expect more from a list owner.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "phillip and scott" <twomenofmusic@xxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: Admin:Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.


> Anyone who does not want to be rebuked openly on list should do as the 
> admin
> request.  If they do not, they should expect to be openly criticized.  How
> hard is it to follow the rules?  If you have a problem with this and you
> want to act like a baby, get off this list.  I am here to get help with 
> jaws
> when I need it, not listen to a bunch of bickering and arguing.  I have
> enough junk email as it is.  If I didn't need help with jaws, I would not
> need this list, and as you can see, I rarely post because of this.  Only 
> if
> I need help I post.  Jack, I would suggest you make an effort to control
> your temper or leave.  What you are doing is called flaming and that is 
> not
> tolerated on any of the lists I belong to.  James, I feel for you, it must
> be tough to have to deal with this sort of thing as much as you do.
>
> Phillip
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Admin:Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.
>
>
>>I agree! However, I will not be reprimanded in front of the whole group
>>like
>> some kind of bad child!  I'm not the only one who has made posts that 
>> have
>> nothing to do with Jaws!  So, don't you single me out!  So, lets cut out
>> everything that is not related to JFW.  So, no more posts about add 
>> aware,
>> no more posts about any office products, no more posts about any CD
>> ripping
>> software, no more posts about WinMX, no more posts about typing tooter
>> programs.  No more posts about anything unless it's Jaws related.  Just
>> trying to follow the rules.
>> And if you, James, have anything else to say to me, you damn well better
>> do
>> it in private!  Jack!!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 4:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: Admin:Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.
>>
>>
>>> Well, I have a sense of humor, anyone who knows me knows this. But 
>>> simply
>>> because something is funny to you or someone else, doesn't necessarily
>>> make
>>> it right for you to post it.
>>> As far as the jaws humor posts go, if you *really* stop and think about
>>> it
>>> for a second, they weren't really JAWS related, and I'll tell you
>>> why.  Eloquence is a synthesizer that is *not* exclusive to JAWS.
>>> Window-eyes and other screen access products use it too.
>>> So anyone with any of those screen access products could've made a post
>>> like that and sent it to their friends. I believe that kind of thing is
>>> much better sent off list to be enjoyed in private. Now I'm not saying
>>> it's
>>> not funny, pay attention.
>>> What I'm saying is that it is funny, but not meant for a list like this,
>>> James, the list Admin has even said so. So let's please try and respect
>>> the
>>> moderator's wishes for once and when he asks for your cooperation in
>>> something, please give it to him.
>>> Ok, enough from me on this subject.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 01:00 AM 1/23/2005, you wrote:
>>>>Hello Jack,
>>>>right on jack, give it too some of these who don'thave any sense of
>>>>humor.
>>>>I, for one, appreciate all of your advice suggestions and helpful hints.
>>>>What this list needs, is a lot more people like yourself and less of
>>>>those
>>>>who have nothing else to do but bitchand complain about nothing.  Keep
>>>>the
>>>>humor comming and the hell with those who have no sense humor.  Give 
>>>>them
>>>>hell.  Your friend with a sense humor,
>>>>Al
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 6:23 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Admin:Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > OK, I have a few points I'd like to make...  This may get me kicked
>>>> > off
>>>> > the
>>>> > list, but I really couldn't care less about that.
>>>> > I have received a few messages off list from a few people who got
>>>> > their
>>>> > feelings hurt because I called them on some info that was all but
>>>> > useless.
>>>> > this person E-mailed me privately to basically yell at me because I'd
>>>> > dare
>>>> > to correct him on list.  This individual also went on to say that
>>>> > people
>>>> > were leaving the list and it was my fault.  Now, I've seen several
>>>> > posts
>>>> > as
>>>> > of late that are totally unrelated to Jaws.  Questions about other
>>>> > types
>>>> > of
>>>> > software and programs.  It's too bad that some people have forgotten
>>>> > how
>>>> > to
>>>> > lighten up.
>>>> > I have tried to offer useful information where I could.  Even if it
>>>> > was
>>>> > unrelated to Jaws.  Maybe sometimes My info was wrong, but unlike 
>>>> > some
>>>> > people, I'm big enough to admit that I can make mistakes.  Computers
>>>> > don't
>>>> > like commands that are close enough.  It's exact, or it's useless.  I
>>>> > agree
>>>> > that this list is set up for help with Jaws.  And if that's what it's
>>>> > here
>>>> > for, then I think that we should all refram from talking about any
>>>> > other
>>>> > software or hardware.  Thank you all for your cooperation regarding
>>>> > this
>>>> > matter.  Sarcasm?  Maybe, but it's that, or getting pissed off. 
>>>> > Jack
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "James" <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:48 PM
>>>> > Subject: Admin:Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> What does this have to do with what the list is set up for? The same
>>>> >> with
>>>> >> your other post. Jack, indly refrane from such postings in future.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> James,
>>>> >> List Admin
>>>> >>
>>>> >> At 11:49 AM 1/21/2005, you wrote:
>>>> >>>Hi Kathy,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>Actually, I do have children.  But they are 8 years old.  I have 
>>>> >>>twin
>>>> >>>boys.
>>>> >>>They're awesome kids!  Jack
>>>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>>From: "Kathy and Tom" <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 AM
>>>> >>>Subject: Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> > Hi Jack!
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Heh heh heh heh!  I can tell you must have  teenagers!  That's
>>>> >>> > great!
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Kathy
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all
>>>> >>> > these
>>>> >>> > things shall be added unto you. Matthew 6 33, KJV.
>>>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >>> > From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:28 AM
>>>> >>> > Subject: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >> For quite some time, there's been talk about introducing a new
>>>> >>> >> eloquence
>>>> >>> >> voice for JAWS users.  The idea has been reviewed and talked
>>>> >>> >> about
>>>> >>> >> for
>>>> >>> >> quite some time.
>>>> >>> >> So, along with the 10 languages that are currently available 
>>>> >>> >> with
>>>> >>> >> Jaws.
>>>> >>> >> We are proud to introduce the newest language designed with
>>>> >>> >> teenagers
>>>> >>> >> in
>>>> >>> >> mind.  Here is a sample.  Read on...
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> So like, I went to the mall?  And like, I bought some new shoes?
>>>> >>> >> And
>>>> >>> >> they're like so totally awesome?  But the woman at the counter?
>>>> >>> >> She
>>>> >>> >> was
>>>> >>> >> a
>>>> >>> >> total jerk?  She like didn't want to wait on me?  So like, I got
>>>> >>> >> mad?
>>>> >>> >> And
>>>> >>> >> walked out?  And so like, I found this really narley purse at
>>>> >>> >> this
>>>> >>> >> other
>>>> >>> >> store?  And like, it was totally rad?  So, like, I don't know!
>>>> >>> >> Oh,
>>>> >>> >> and I
>>>> >>> >> saw Stephanie and Jessica?  And we went out to lunch?  And well,
>>>> >>> >> The
>>>> >>> >> food
>>>> >>> >> was totally grodie?...
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> OK, had enough?
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >>
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