Re: Admin:Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.

  • From: "phillip and scott" <twomenofmusic@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:13:42 -0600

Anyone who does not want to be rebuked openly on list should do as the admin 
request.  If they do not, they should expect to be openly criticized.  How 
hard is it to follow the rules?  If you have a problem with this and you 
want to act like a baby, get off this list.  I am here to get help with jaws 
when I need it, not listen to a bunch of bickering and arguing.  I have 
enough junk email as it is.  If I didn't need help with jaws, I would not 
need this list, and as you can see, I rarely post because of this.  Only if 
I need help I post.  Jack, I would suggest you make an effort to control 
your temper or leave.  What you are doing is called flaming and that is not 
tolerated on any of the lists I belong to.  James, I feel for you, it must 
be tough to have to deal with this sort of thing as much as you do.

Phillip


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: Admin:Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.


>I agree! However, I will not be reprimanded in front of the whole group 
>like
> some kind of bad child!  I'm not the only one who has made posts that have
> nothing to do with Jaws!  So, don't you single me out!  So, lets cut out
> everything that is not related to JFW.  So, no more posts about add aware,
> no more posts about any office products, no more posts about any CD 
> ripping
> software, no more posts about WinMX, no more posts about typing tooter
> programs.  No more posts about anything unless it's Jaws related.  Just
> trying to follow the rules.
> And if you, James, have anything else to say to me, you damn well better 
> do
> it in private!  Jack!!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Skarstad" <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 4:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Admin:Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.
>
>
>> Well, I have a sense of humor, anyone who knows me knows this. But simply
>> because something is funny to you or someone else, doesn't necessarily
>> make
>> it right for you to post it.
>> As far as the jaws humor posts go, if you *really* stop and think about 
>> it
>> for a second, they weren't really JAWS related, and I'll tell you
>> why.  Eloquence is a synthesizer that is *not* exclusive to JAWS.
>> Window-eyes and other screen access products use it too.
>> So anyone with any of those screen access products could've made a post
>> like that and sent it to their friends. I believe that kind of thing is
>> much better sent off list to be enjoyed in private. Now I'm not saying
>> it's
>> not funny, pay attention.
>> What I'm saying is that it is funny, but not meant for a list like this,
>> James, the list Admin has even said so. So let's please try and respect
>> the
>> moderator's wishes for once and when he asks for your cooperation in
>> something, please give it to him.
>> Ok, enough from me on this subject.
>>
>>
>>
>> At 01:00 AM 1/23/2005, you wrote:
>>>Hello Jack,
>>>right on jack, give it too some of these who don'thave any sense of 
>>>humor.
>>>I, for one, appreciate all of your advice suggestions and helpful hints.
>>>What this list needs, is a lot more people like yourself and less of 
>>>those
>>>who have nothing else to do but bitchand complain about nothing.  Keep 
>>>the
>>>humor comming and the hell with those who have no sense humor.  Give them
>>>hell.  Your friend with a sense humor,
>>>Al
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 6:23 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Admin:Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.
>>>
>>>
>>> > OK, I have a few points I'd like to make...  This may get me kicked 
>>> > off
>>> > the
>>> > list, but I really couldn't care less about that.
>>> > I have received a few messages off list from a few people who got 
>>> > their
>>> > feelings hurt because I called them on some info that was all but
>>> > useless.
>>> > this person E-mailed me privately to basically yell at me because I'd
>>> > dare
>>> > to correct him on list.  This individual also went on to say that
>>> > people
>>> > were leaving the list and it was my fault.  Now, I've seen several
>>> > posts
>>> > as
>>> > of late that are totally unrelated to Jaws.  Questions about other
>>> > types
>>> > of
>>> > software and programs.  It's too bad that some people have forgotten
>>> > how
>>> > to
>>> > lighten up.
>>> > I have tried to offer useful information where I could.  Even if it 
>>> > was
>>> > unrelated to Jaws.  Maybe sometimes My info was wrong, but unlike some
>>> > people, I'm big enough to admit that I can make mistakes.  Computers
>>> > don't
>>> > like commands that are close enough.  It's exact, or it's useless.  I
>>> > agree
>>> > that this list is set up for help with Jaws.  And if that's what it's
>>> > here
>>> > for, then I think that we should all refram from talking about any
>>> > other
>>> > software or hardware.  Thank you all for your cooperation regarding
>>> > this
>>> > matter.  Sarcasm?  Maybe, but it's that, or getting pissed off.   Jack
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "James" <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:48 PM
>>> > Subject: Admin:Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> What does this have to do with what the list is set up for? The same
>>> >> with
>>> >> your other post. Jack, indly refrane from such postings in future.
>>> >>
>>> >> James,
>>> >> List Admin
>>> >>
>>> >> At 11:49 AM 1/21/2005, you wrote:
>>> >>>Hi Kathy,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Actually, I do have children.  But they are 8 years old.  I have twin
>>> >>>boys.
>>> >>>They're awesome kids!  Jack
>>> >>>----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>From: "Kathy and Tom" <tkdarnold@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:51 AM
>>> >>>Subject: Re: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > Hi Jack!
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Heh heh heh heh!  I can tell you must have  teenagers!  That's
>>> >>> > great!
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Kathy
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all
>>> >>> > these
>>> >>> > things shall be added unto you. Matthew 6 33, KJV.
>>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> > From: "Jack Lowe" <akronjack1982@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> > To: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:28 AM
>>> >>> > Subject: New Eloquence Voice? LOL.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> For quite some time, there's been talk about introducing a new
>>> >>> >> eloquence
>>> >>> >> voice for JAWS users.  The idea has been reviewed and talked 
>>> >>> >> about
>>> >>> >> for
>>> >>> >> quite some time.
>>> >>> >> So, along with the 10 languages that are currently available with
>>> >>> >> Jaws.
>>> >>> >> We are proud to introduce the newest language designed with
>>> >>> >> teenagers
>>> >>> >> in
>>> >>> >> mind.  Here is a sample.  Read on...
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> So like, I went to the mall?  And like, I bought some new shoes?
>>> >>> >> And
>>> >>> >> they're like so totally awesome?  But the woman at the counter?
>>> >>> >> She
>>> >>> >> was
>>> >>> >> a
>>> >>> >> total jerk?  She like didn't want to wait on me?  So like, I got
>>> >>> >> mad?
>>> >>> >> And
>>> >>> >> walked out?  And so like, I found this really narley purse at 
>>> >>> >> this
>>> >>> >> other
>>> >>> >> store?  And like, it was totally rad?  So, like, I don't know!
>>> >>> >> Oh,
>>> >>> >> and I
>>> >>> >> saw Stephanie and Jessica?  And we went out to lunch?  And well,
>>> >>> >> The
>>> >>> >> food
>>> >>> >> was totally grodie?...
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> OK, had enough?
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
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