[jawsscripts] Re: web sites with graphics
- From: Ann Marie Medlar <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 08:30:15 -0400
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I hear you loud and clear but in the mean time it seems that many don't
abide by the W3 principles and guidelines.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elise Lonsdale" <elise@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 12:23 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: web sites with graphics
>
>
> Hi Ann,
> If a web developer is looking for a quick and inexpensive solution to a
> problem like what's below, they would be well served learning their trade
> properly and getting it Wright in the first place.
>
> A user of a web site should not have to be OCR'ing the text to send it
> back
> to the web site and it's owner only to have subsequent users click on some
> special link to access that text. W3C standards clearly define how a web
> site should be created using all the necessary markup that should make
> almost every web page accessible to us with little messing around. It's
> just that there are a lot of people out there who just don't have a clue
> how
> to do it Wright in the first place.
>
> Warm Regards
> Elise Lonsdale
>
> Do you know if there is software to convert smooth text to pure text?
> I am just thinking that if a site has inaccessible text then one could
> save
>
> page in question in some format, then put file through OpenBook or
> another
> conversion software package, save as text or something readable, then
> possibly give file back to web developer to add a link text only link and
> post text info under accessible link?
> I have no idea about web development but just thinking how an
> inaccessible
>
> site might become accessible at low cost and effort.
> Ann
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elise Lonsdale" <elise@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:00 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: web sites with graphics
>
>
>> Hi All,
>> Having not seen the web site in question, it's also possible that the
>> graphic in question was produced by one of those programs that place text
>> inside a graphic. To the sighted and possibly novice web developer, they
>> just see what appears as text and continue building their web site
>> oblivious
>> to whether it's a graphic with nice smooth text in their graphic or true
>> text, which we can read with a screen reader.
>>
>> I've seen web pages bashed up by Microsoft Publisher, where if a bloc of
>> text appears close to a picture or word art, the program will just make a
>> nice bit fat graphic of that part of the page to preserve the visual
>> layout
>> for the novice developer, Bingo you get a non-accessible web page.
>>
>> Warm Regards - Elise Lonsdale
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride
>> Sent: Friday, 5 November 2010 7:08 AM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: web sites with graphics
>>
>> Ann, u queried:
>> As far as BitMaps does this mean that a photo was taken of text data and
>> then posted rather than someone typeing text info?
>>
>> Basically, that's pretty much right. Whether the text was
>> photographed, drawn, etc., it was done as a graphic rather than text &
>> no screenreader, except possibly Cobra, reads that.
>>
>> W/o an access code, if the site is ok till then, the link is pretty much
>> ndg.
>>
>> On 11/4/10, Ann Marie Medlar <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> As far as BitMaps does this mean that a photo was taken of text data and
>>> then posted rather than someone typeing text info?
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:02 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: web sites with graphics
>>>
>>>
>>>> Likely the screen was drawn in bitmaps as opposed to printing of
>>>> actual text, &, if that be the case, no scripting in the world's gonna
>>>> fix it because Jaws is simply unable to read bitmaps. Having said
>>>> thus, u didn't provide the site url in order for us to check.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/4/10, Ann Marie Medlar <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> I used IE to go to a web site to take a word test. I had an access
>>>>> code
>>>>> from the site and when I entered a new browser window opens.
>>>>> Jaws reports graphics...
>>>>> Is there any way to scritp this easily to access?
>>>>> The screen instructed me to open a specific file and then to proceed.
>>>>> A
>>>>> sighted person told me that is what my screen stated.
>>>>> I used Windows XP Pro, Jaws11.xx and IE 8.0.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious how could this become more accessible?
>>>>> Ann
>>>>>
>>>>>
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