[jawsscripts] Re: collaboration

  • From: Doug Lee <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:49:44 -0500

For public projects, there is Launchpad, which is a web site
integrating version control, bug tracking, and I believe release
control and a few other things.

http://www.launchpad.net

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 08:27:39PM -0000, Sean Farrow wrote:
Hi doug: 
Is there any integration from bazaar to a bog tracking system?
Sean.

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I have now used three different version control systems to manage
scripting projects.  CVS is the oldest, Subversion more recent, and
Bazaar the latest.  I use CVS for a lot of long-term projects that
started years ago, Subversion for the Skype scripts, and Bazaar for new
stuff I'm working on.  I would say CVS is no longer the way to go on new
projects, though there is a version of CVS called CVSNT that I have not
examined thoroughly.  CVS itself does not support a lot of things very
well that later systems support and that are likely to happen, such as
renaming files, moving files, making subfolders, and handling binary
files.  Subversion can handle all of those issues pretty well, and it is
easy to use, but I don't find it very easy to set up initially.  Bazaar
is very new, very easy to set up, able to handle all of the mentioned
issues, and also able to do what is called "distributed version
control."

For a scripting project, a lot of the power of the modern version
control systems may not be particularly necessary.  I like to prepare
for possibilities before they happen, but that's just me. :-)  In my
job, though, I also need the distributed version control support, though
I'm avoiding an in-depth explanation of that in this message so I don't
confuse people with a lot of stuff that isn't specifically related to
scripting.

I don't remember URLs for CVS or Subversion off the top of my head, but
Bazaar, including a Windows installer for it, can be had from

http://bazaar-vcs.org

One final point:  Version control systems do help with sharing of
course, but they do more than that.  They make it possible to recover
from slowly-discovered coding mistakes.  They also make it possible to
return to a particular version to test something that's happening on a
customer's machine even though they've missed the last four script
updates.  It takes some getting used to, but version control is orders
of magnitude better than just keeping myriad copies of entire script
folders lying around.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 07:59:59AM -0700, Jackie McBride wrote:
Hi List:

My entire scripting existence I've written scripts on my own.
Yesterday, I was approached w/the possibility of collaborating w/a
fellow scripter on a project, &, for a variety of reasons, particularly
time constraints on my part as well as a profound respect for the person
in question, I decided to accept his offer of assistance.  Emails
crossing w/various versions of the scripts being developed quickly led
us to believe that we needed to develop some format for exchanging work
if this were to be a successful endeavor.
Unfortunately, neither of us has ever done this b4.  My initial thought
is to assign various tasks, where each person works on part of the
application independently & where there is no overlap.  That, of course,
can be hard to do, especially w/a complex program, as this is.

So, has any1 ever done this, & how have u managed version control?
Any help appreciated.
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