[jawsscripts] Re: Word 2010 script
- From: "Travis Roth" <travis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 10:56:58 -0500
JAWS does seem to announce which the cursor is in "primary header", "footer"
when I have the header/footer view enabled and then navigate to the pane by
pressing F6 until the item is in focus.
But not sure how you re-find this information out without moving focus to
and fro.
(This is with JAWS 13.)
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Word 2010 script
Ah yes, the simple script commands you want to add should work without what
I call script chaining, as you say. Identifying footnotes and comments could
be done by adding commands also, but you'd need to understand parts of
Word's object model, and possibly some of the built-in JAWS script code, to
pull those off I think. Off the top of my head, I believe the footnote one
would require you to figure out which "story," as Word calls it, your cursor
is in. I don't remember exactly how to get that done, but it should be
possible. In fact I'm a bit surprised that's not already available, so my
first suggestion would be for you to check in Quick Settings in JAWS 13, or
Verbosity Options in JAWS 12 and older, for settings that might make JAWS
announce that sort of thing already.
Best of luck.
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 03:33:19PM +0100, David Newman wrote:
Doug,
oof!
Definitely nothing as complex as changing Behaviour like that.
Mostly it's simple ways of doing multiple normal tasks (some of which can
already be done with multiple keystrokes) which are done frequently enough
to need to be slick. The subject script here, for example, reduces a tedious
key sequence to analyse document size to 3 keystrokes. Alternatively they
may be scripts to get round things that don't work (which is faster than
waiting for fixes). I do have lots of scripts running in pre-scripted
programs already.
My scripts are simply added to the normal script file and never 'interfere'.
However, there are some features (which won't interfere) which I haven't
found a way into yet, and once apparently simple stuff fails you can't tell
if it's you or bugs that make complex stuff not work.
So, to answer you, usually very straightforward routines, but other stuff
might include
- being able to tell I'm in the "footnote pane", which Jaws clearly knows
about, but I can't make it tell me (yet!).
- making Jaws tell me the first line of a comment (bug) and hence, also,
knowing when I'm in a comment.
and so on.
But you can see here part of the 'outer' problem - we are getting lots of
bright ideas for things, but they all veer off the original simple problem
ie:- Is that little script correct according to the documentation, and if
so, why doesn't it work?
Thanks for joining in,
David
On 25/06/2012 14:57, Doug Lee wrote:
> I should sort of warn you that it is a bit trickier to script an
> application that Freedom Scientific has already scripted, because you
> have to make sure that your own scripts mesh properly with those that
> already come with JAWS. Word is such a case: FS includes Word scripts
> with JAWS, so you would have to work your scripts in with theirs. This
> can be done in a couple of ways, each having its pros and cons.
>
> First though, I think it would be most useful to us if you could tell
> us what functionality you want to add by writing scripts. That might
> help us figure out the best way to make it happen. If you just want to
> add some commands of your own, it really won't matter much which way
> you do it. If you're trying to alter JAWS' behavior as you do things,
> add or modify automatic speech, or do anything else that might involve
> intercepting a JAWS event, it will be time to talk about chaining
> script files together.
>
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