[jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts Updates
- From: Øyvind Lode <oyvind.lode@xxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 18:37:30 +0200
No need to apologize.
I can indeed understand your frustration.
I really wan't to continue using JAWS, but it's getting buggier for each
release and features like ResearchIT?
I never used Research it since I can use google to do the same thing.
But this rant is getting off topic so we better stop it now Smile!
-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Gordon.Luke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 21. mai 2010 18:03
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts Updates
Hi
I unfortunately though am a braille user of the Humanware Brailliant 80
display which is not supported and the stance is really getting me annoyed.
I'm not sure whether to moan more to FS or HumanWare. In the end it's me
the customer who suffers. This weekend though I am going to give
WindowEyes a serious go to see how it does perform for me. Trouble is I've
invested a lot of time with Jaws in learning how to work the application
and to make scripting modifications for my applications and what's more I
do like the product. I also love the Brailliant displays. However
whenever I report a bug I hear absolutely nothing from FS and that's really
poor in my book.
Appologies for the rant.
Gordon Luke
Capita IT (CAIM)
Øyvind Lode
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[jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail
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21/05/2010 16:49
Please respond to
jawsscripts@freel
ists.org
Don:
I agree!
I'm a Braille user and the new driver signing policy is indeed concerning
me.
Papenmeier has signed the deal so my Braille display works great with JAWS
11 64-bit though.
I don't like the way FS is going and I wish I had a alternative to JAWS.
-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donald Marang
Sent: 21. mai 2010 04:55
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts Updates
I think I will give it a few days first to see if my email to support gets
escalated. Yes. Competition is the key. I am afraid FS is moving toward
litigation rather than inovation. Actually, that is not entirely correct,
but it is a great line. I am just concerned over their new braille driver
signing stance, even though I am not a braille user.
Don Marang
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From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:57 PM
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts Updates
> don, have you communicated these concerns to eric damary or John Carson
> directly? If you haven't, I would. you may get some joy this way, as I
> believe you have a way of putting things, which just might get through?
> especially now that they've actually got some competition in this space
re
> windowEyes?
> what do people think.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 5:19 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts
> Updates
>
>
>> no,
>>
>> the scripts do get circulated and used, its just that it's not generally
>> done by freedom scientific!
>>
>> my site is one place where this can be done, and if it's a major
>> scripting
>> success, freedom has been known to add it to an update, I think one of
>> the
>> folks out here, Jamal, has had scripts he worked on go into a FS update.
>>
>> don't give up on one persons troubles!
>>
>> inthane
>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>> for blind computer users and programmers
>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>> "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
>> custom made computers and peripherals to fit your needs!
>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:14 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts
>> Updates
>>
>>
>>> Well, there go any ideas I had of attempting to get into JAWS
scripting.
>>> *grin*
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
>>> sleeves,
>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donald Marang
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:32 PM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts Updates
>>>
>>> The following story points out a critical weakness in the JAWS
>>> Scripts Architecture! There should be a better process for
>>> updating user scripts when a JAWS update is released! I know
>>> some of you have made this easier for your particular scripts.
>>> This is something I would expect Freedom Scientific to resolve
>>> in general. However, I see little interest in scripting
>>> support from Freedom Scientific.
>>> I finally got Windows Live Mail to work acceptably with JAWS
>>> 11! I uninstalled the previous JAWS 11, including user
>>> settings and scripts, but left the shared components. Then I
>>> downloaded and installed the new 1447 version. My previously
>>> unresolved issues went away! Well, most of them. There are
>>> still annoying issues, which I expect happen for all of you;
>>> lack of auto completion feedback when typing into the To field,
>>> no first letter navigation of the folder list, and not all of
>>> the hotkeys to read or edit the headers work correctly. With
>>> the new update more of these keys now work, like the Date and
>>> To fields, with Alt + 2 and Alt + 3, respectively. The Subject
>>> field, Alt + 6, has always worked. Others, most notably, the
>>> From field, Alt +1, still does not work.
>>>
>>> I have a lot of scripts that I have written and also use
>>> several scripts created by other JAWS users. Some are merged
>>> using container files with the default scripts and other
>>> applications such as IE and Firefox. Previously, I had
>>> reinstalled all of these scripts over the old installation, I
>>> made sure all of the jsb binary files were updated. Evidently,
>>> that was not enough! I suppose some of the associated files
>>> like jsh header files never got updated until I completely
>>> removed my user settings folder!
>>>
>>> My conclusion is that until Freedom Scientific or a third party
>>> figure out how to properly update the scripts and their support
>>> files, using user created scripts for JAWS is too cumbersome
>>> for the average user! Heck, it had me stumped for almost a
>>> year! This should really be addressed!
>>>
>>> Thanks all for previously attempting to figure this out!
>>>
>>> Don Marang
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