[jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts Updates

  • From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 22:55:19 -0400

I think I will give it a few days first to see if my email to support gets 
escalated.  Yes.  Competition is the key.  I am afraid FS is moving toward 
litigation rather than inovation.  Actually, that is not entirely correct, 
but it is a great line.  I am just concerned over their new braille driver 
signing stance, even though I am not a braille user.

Don Marang

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From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:57 PM
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts Updates

> don, have you communicated these concerns to eric damary or John Carson
> directly?  If you haven't, I would. you may get some joy this way, as I
> believe you have a way of putting things, which just might get through?
> especially now that they've actually got some competition in this space re
> windowEyes?
> what do people think.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 5:19 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts 
> Updates
>
>
>> no,
>>
>> the scripts do get circulated and used, its just that it's not generally
>> done by freedom scientific!
>>
>> my site is one place where this can be done, and if it's a major 
>> scripting
>> success, freedom has been known to add it to an update, I think one of 
>> the
>> folks out here, Jamal, has had scripts he worked on go into a FS update.
>>
>> don't give up on one persons troubles!
>>
>> inthane
>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>> for blind computer users and programmers
>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>> "own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!"
>> custom made computers and peripherals to fit your needs!
>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joe Orozco" <jsorozco@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 3:14 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts
>> Updates
>>
>>
>>> Well, there go any ideas I had of attempting to get into JAWS scripting.
>>> *grin*
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> "Hard work spotlights the character of people: some turn up their
>>> sleeves,
>>> some turn up their noses, and some don't turn up at all."--Sam Ewing
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Donald Marang
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:32 PM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Windows Live Mail and Other JAWS Scripts Updates
>>>
>>> The following story points out a critical weakness in the JAWS
>>> Scripts Architecture!  There should be a better process for
>>> updating user scripts when a JAWS update is released!  I know
>>> some of you have made this easier for your particular scripts.
>>> This is something I would expect Freedom Scientific to resolve
>>> in general.  However, I see little interest in scripting
>>> support from Freedom Scientific.
>>> I finally got Windows Live Mail to work acceptably with JAWS
>>> 11!  I uninstalled the previous JAWS 11, including user
>>> settings and scripts, but left the shared components.  Then I
>>> downloaded and installed the new 1447 version.  My previously
>>> unresolved issues went away!  Well, most of them.  There are
>>> still annoying issues, which I expect happen for all of you;
>>> lack of auto completion feedback when typing into the To field,
>>> no first letter navigation of the folder list, and not all of
>>> the hotkeys to read or edit the headers work correctly.  With
>>> the new update more of these keys now work, like the Date and
>>> To fields, with Alt + 2 and Alt + 3, respectively.  The Subject
>>> field, Alt + 6, has always worked.  Others, most notably, the
>>> From field, Alt +1, still does not work.
>>>
>>> I have a lot of scripts that I have written and also use
>>> several scripts created by other JAWS users.  Some are merged
>>> using container files with the default scripts and other
>>> applications such as IE and Firefox.  Previously, I had
>>> reinstalled all of these scripts over the old installation, I
>>> made sure all of the jsb binary files were updated.  Evidently,
>>> that was not enough!  I suppose some of the associated files
>>> like jsh header files never got updated until I completely
>>> removed my user settings folder!
>>>
>>> My conclusion is that until Freedom Scientific or a third party
>>> figure out how to properly update the scripts and their support
>>> files, using user created scripts for JAWS is too cumbersome
>>> for the average user!  Heck, it had me stumped for almost a
>>> year!  This should really be addressed!
>>>
>>> Thanks all for previously attempting to figure this out!
>>>
>>> Don Marang
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