[jawsscripts] Re: White on black highlight
- From: "Smith, Alice A. HQ DCO" <Alice.A.Smith@xxxxxxx>
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- Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:17:35 -0400
Thanks John,
I've already got that one for the terminal emulator script but when I
used it in the default script, I lost speech in MS Outlook when arrowing
up and down the list of messages.=20
For now I've changed the default SayHighlightedText to ignore white text
on black but I really do not want to maintain a custom default script. =20
Best,
Alice
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Robichaud
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:27 PM
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: White on black highlight
Alice,
I encountered a similar problem using the Attachmate Extra emulator with
Jaws 8.0 & 9.0. To resolve it: in the Extra.jcf file under Custom
Highlight Options I made sure there were no custom highlight colors set
and checked the radio button for Custom Only. Works fine now.
John Robichaud
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Smith, Alice A.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:14 PM
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: White on black highlight
Sorry, I need more help.
I changed the default TextOutDelay to 5 and then 25. It has no effect on
JAWS speaking the white on black text.
Do you, or does anyone know where FS made the change? White on Black was
not highlighted text in JAWS 7.1. It became highlighted in JAWS 8 and
continued in JAWS 9.=3D20
I have changed the emulator jcf to use custom highlight only. This stops
the white on black text from speaking when the script has control. My
issues are when the script doesn't seem to have control and the default
script does.
1. When I use CapsLock +Delete to either magnify or go back to
magnification level 1 when MAGic and JAWS are running together. (100% of
the time). MAGic alone doesn't speak the white on black text at all.
2. When an adjunct app. squeezes my emulator and places itself in the
remaining display space. At this point, the emulator does not have focus
but JAWS speaks all the white on black text in the emulator anyway.
(100% of the time)
3. When I close a window that is open on top of the emulator. (Depends
on the window. I haven't nailed it down entirely.)
In all these cases JAWS is transitioning from or to or has left the
emulator script entirely. So I really need a way to kill it in one of
the default files without stopping the focus highlight from speaking. If
I set the default.jcf to use only custom highlighting, JAWS will not
speak when arrowing through the message list in Outlook (as just one
example). So that is not an option.
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Farough
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:45 PM
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: White on black highlight
Hi Alice:
This setting is found in the advanced options in the configuration
manager.
Here is the Jaws help for this setting.
This edit box specifies the number of milliseconds JAWS waits before
speaking text newly written to the screen. The default value is 0.
Here is the entry taken from my default.jcf file with some other
descriptive comments.
; number of milliseconds for JFW to wait before speaking newly written
text.
; Setting this to a non-zero value, may cause terminal programs to ;
respond in a less choppy fashion TextOutDelay=3D3D3D0
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>>> "Smith, Alice A. HQ DCO" <Alice.A.Smith@xxxxxxx> 12:31 PM
Tuesday, June 10, 2008 >>>
David,
I will look at the MAGic jcf and play with it.
It seems that when I press CapsLock+Delete to magnify, the application's
jcf for JAWS loses control for a bit and the default settings take over.
So the white on black text is spoken. It's not 100% of the time, though.
What is textout delay?
The behavior happens without MAGic but not in the same way. The text
will be spoken frequently when I close a window that was open over top
of my app. It will always speak when I open an adjunct app that resizes
my app's window, put's itself in the remaining display space and take
the focus. I think JAWS is doing a screen refresh.=3D3D3D20
Alice
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Hi Alice:
I have found the following entries in: magic screen magnification.jcf
[OSM]
UseCustomHighlight=3D3D3D3D3D1
CustomHighlightTextColor=3D3D3D3D3D000000000
CustomHighlightColor=3D3D3D3D3D255255000
Perhaps this is causing the problem.
What happens if you disable magnification?
Does changing the textout Delay entry make any difference?
Does this behaviour occur if Magic is not running?
For what it's worth, I have noticed some performance issues when running
Jaws and Magic together.
>>> "Smith, Alice A. HQ DCO" <Alice.A.Smith@xxxxxxx> 11:25 AM
Tuesday, June 10, 2008 >>>
Does anyone know what file the line was added to add White text on a
black background as a automatically spoken highlight in JAWS 8 and 9?
I know how to change the highlight option to custom only but if I do
that in the default configuration it causes serious problems for Outlook
and other applications.=3D3D3D3D3D20
If I only change it in the application script, JAWS speaks all the white
text anyway after a window closes that was open on top of my app. or
when MAGic starts magnifying or when the app loses focus to another
window that shares the screen with it.
I need to do more than change the highlight options.=3D3D3D3D3D20
Thanks for any help,
Alice
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