[jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 08:47:26 +0300
also I hand code things, but I use eclipse with specific editors for html
and the language I use, because I like very much the code assist feature.
In this way I can write in more languages, the curve of learning for a new
language becomes smaller and I can code in what ever language the customer
wants.
To stick to one technology is limititative and very unmotivating.
In my work I choose the technology after I see the requirements and I choose
it according to the requirements.
Also I have made projects with a mixture of technologies and languages.
As an ide I use mostly eclipse.
----- Original Message -----
From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:22 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>I personally hand code everything, either notePad or TextPad, I use HTML,
> XML, JavaScript PHP and ColdFusion. I like to stick to these languages as
> my
> customers can then make their own changes if they like, my experience has
> been that not many are familiar with asp.net /C#. I've used DreamWeaver
> and
> sometimes it generates so much unnecessary code that I spend too much time
> fixing it up.
>
> D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of miketerry-lists
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:33 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>
>
> Pardon me for jumping in on this thread late. What development
> language/ide/tool set do you use?
>
> I'm trying to decide what my next language/platform will be. Either
> asp.net, php or java.
>
> I'm leaning towards asp.net/c# as it's real popular around Phoenix.
>
> Thanks Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:05 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>
>
> I personally have the advantage that my wife is a graphics designer, so
> for
> my company, I do the coding, I even do the styles for the site, I learned
> that as long as you really learn and understand the concepts of how css
> works and the entire dom and how things are affected, you can at least get
> that part done. The only 2 things my wife does for me is design the needed
> graphics and choose the color scheme, as well as make sure that the final
> product looks as I intended. And you are right, the websites I mostly
> build
> always have ajax effects, the graphics for the rounded corners (plane
> borders just don't cut it any more), the 3-d effects, the sliding, fading
> or
> similar tranisitions of items, etc. Websites nowadays have to be designed
> to
> be more like an application with more functionality and better looks.
> Those
> that don't have this effect on the users are only visitted if the user
> really needs that information. One of the things that I've found is that
> for
> a lot of things using plane colors just doesn't cut it. For example most
> website backgrounds don't use regular color codes to use as a background.
> They are usually shades of different colors, gradients, different designs
> etc. Sometimes it can be a graphic that's just a box filled with a desired
> fancy color. To ensure the same display of it across browsers and systems
> we
> use a graphic hat will esnure it looks the same across them all. Sometimes
> we have to combine multiple graphics for different sections of the site to
> give the site different effects such as 3d effects, or a pop up effect
> when
> a user mouses over a menu item etc.
> In the sighted world I've discovered they are dependent on seeing things
> with graphics and charts and things of that nature, not just a plane old
> text site. That's why my focus as a developer/designer is to bring that
> modern look to a site while also developing accessible solutions for those
> of us who use access technologies. In this way the customer (my client)
> gets
> the best of both worlds: sighted users love the sites, effects, ease of
> use
> and graphics, and those who use any kind of access technology can still
> have
> an accessible site they can use. What helped me understand this better was
> working at nasa, where I coded web appplications. You quickly begin to
> gain
> lots of experience and learn all about the differences between desktop and
> web design.
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:13 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>
> Let me ask about one minor thing....
> How do you choose the color scheme of an site?
> How do you know what color to use together with what color?
> How you are sure that what you are doing there is looking great?
> This are questions from an web developer/designer with experience in the
> field.
> For now, I have a great theory in my experience and theoreticaly I know
> that
> I can not combine red with green or other such combinations, but how do
> you
> do fine ajustments?
> You know that in this days, the design of a site is based on grafics with
> specific efects, to obtain for example a button with slide doors efect?
> or to obtain round corners for different parts?
> How do you combain to obtain a color scheme which match with the logo of
> that company you are developing/designing the site for?
> And this are minor questions you must answer before taking any major
> action.
> I am blind, I am for equality, but I am not ridiculous.
> I know that I can not edit graphics because I am blind and that is the
> case
> and also i know that with out graphics there are not trendy designs for
> web
> sites.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:54 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>
>
>>A growing community that I run for the blind, called Raeder 24, will one
>>day
>> change that if we can. We will break through these odds, show folks that
>> we
>> can, and then hopefully these companies will listen to us!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:59 PM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>
>> The concept of web design together with the concept blind is strange
>> enough:)
>> That is the reason that there is not web design software accesible.
>> You ask for this, as like as you would ask that adobe fotoshop must be
>> accessible.
>> If you speak about web developing, not design,
>> there is eclipse which does a good job for me.
>>
>> Also there is a soft named artisteer which seems to be accesible.
>> But, you know what is the problem with these "web design/developing"
>> software?
>> The problem is that their automated job makes a lot of useless code.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:15 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>
>>
>>> I'll be gradified when I am able to service the blind in this way. For
>>> just
>>> because we're blind, we should be able to do things the same way sighted
>>> folks can. We should have access to the same coding/scripting aids that
>>> sighted folks do! Equal access means equall access, not equal access
>>> for
>>> the average user only!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:43 PM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>>
>>> smile that's up to you, , for me, the best web design application is
>>> note
>>> pad, I hand code all my stuff.
>>>
>>> elf
>>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>>> for blind computer users and programmers
>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:44 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>>
>>>
>>>> You know, I've decided to get good at JAWS scripting combined with C
>>>> sharp
>>>> and AutoIt and make a set of JAWS scripts for MS expression web 3.0.
>>>> For
>>>> me, that and VWD and VS 2010 are the only good web design programs.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:35 PM
>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with
>>>> JAWS?
>>>>
>>>> here would be my recommendations:
>>>> 1A. note tab:
>>>> http://www.fookes.com/notetab/index.php
>>>>
>>>> 1B. Arachnophilia 4.0
>>>> http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/index_old.html
>>>>
>>>> 1C. HTMLKit
>>>> www.chami.com/html-kit/
>>>> The HTML Kit Scripts for JAWS can be downloaded from:
>>>> http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/html_kit_scripts.php
>>>>
>>>> 2. AJAX
>>>> (I don't have this ones URL)
>>>>
>>>> 1: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/
>>>>
>>>> 2: http://www.pagetutor.com/
>>>>
>>>> 3: http://www.quackit.com
>>>>
>>>> 4: "Most Wanted Ajax Techniques: 50+ Examples and Tutorials"
>>>> from Noupe.com
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> inthane
>>>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>>>> for blind computer users and programmers
>>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>>>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "ferretdamce83" <ferretdance83@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 7:52 AM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This was posted on the general JAWS mailing list, but you guys seem to
>>>>> be
>>>>> more computer savvy, rather than just chatting about computer basics.
>>>>> Sorry to those that will have to see this post on both lists. Let me
>>>>> know
>>>>> what your advice is and if scripts will help any (and, if so, where
>>>>> can
>>>>> I
>>>>> get some?).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using CPanel for organizing/administering my website. Quite a few
>>>>> web
>>>>
>>>>> design programs are available to be added to MySQL. Some of these are:
>>>>> Mambo, Joomla, PHPWCMS, Siteframe, TYPO3, etc. What do you recommend?
>>>>> Anyone know of a website that tells you how to build your website
>>>>> step-by-step from start to finish?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With respect,
>>>>> Lori in Ohio
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