[jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
- From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 08:41:03 +0300
that is the way I work too.
My wife is a designer too and she does graphics and color design for me as
well as mind map for websites.
Because this is a must too.
The mind map is the way to arange the information in such a way that the
user flows naturaly, usually, from an information to another.
Also is the way how you atract an user to see a thing.
If you want him to see an information you can do some color design in that
corner, little different from the rest of the site and you will see that the
user imediately looks there.
Also the oposite is true, you have to pay attention, to distracte not the
user attention from the important information with different designs where
is not needed, or with plenty of annimated things.
This are things bassed on sight and we can not know how a thing will work.
----- Original Message -----
From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:05 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>I personally have the advantage that my wife is a graphics designer, so
>for
> my company, I do the coding, I even do the styles for the site, I learned
> that as long as you really learn and understand the concepts of how css
> works and the entire dom and how things are affected, you can at least get
> that part done. The only 2 things my wife does for me is design the needed
> graphics and choose the color scheme, as well as make sure that the final
> product looks as I intended. And you are right, the websites I mostly
> build
> always have ajax effects, the graphics for the rounded corners (plane
> borders just don't cut it any more), the 3-d effects, the sliding, fading
> or
> similar tranisitions of items, etc. Websites nowadays have to be designed
> to
> be more like an application with more functionality and better looks.
> Those
> that don't have this effect on the users are only visitted if the user
> really needs that information. One of the things that I've found is that
> for
> a lot of things using plane colors just doesn't cut it. For example most
> website backgrounds don't use regular color codes to use as a background.
> They are usually shades of different colors, gradients, different designs
> etc. Sometimes it can be a graphic that's just a box filled with a desired
> fancy color. To ensure the same display of it across browsers and systems
> we
> use a graphic hat will esnure it looks the same across them all. Sometimes
> we have to combine multiple graphics for different sections of the site to
> give the site different effects such as 3d effects, or a pop up effect
> when
> a user mouses over a menu item etc.
> In the sighted world I've discovered they are dependent on seeing things
> with graphics and charts and things of that nature, not just a plane old
> text site. That's why my focus as a developer/designer is to bring that
> modern look to a site while also developing accessible solutions for those
> of us who use access technologies. In this way the customer (my client)
> gets
> the best of both worlds: sighted users love the sites, effects, ease of
> use
> and graphics, and those who use any kind of access technology can still
> have
> an accessible site they can use. What helped me understand this better was
> working at nasa, where I coded web appplications. You quickly begin to
> gain
> lots of experience and learn all about the differences between desktop and
> web design.
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:13 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>
> Let me ask about one minor thing....
> How do you choose the color scheme of an site?
> How do you know what color to use together with what color?
> How you are sure that what you are doing there is looking great?
> This are questions from an web developer/designer with experience in the
> field.
> For now, I have a great theory in my experience and theoreticaly I know
> that
> I can not combine red with green or other such combinations, but how do
> you
> do fine ajustments?
> You know that in this days, the design of a site is based on grafics with
> specific efects, to obtain for example a button with slide doors efect?
> or to obtain round corners for different parts?
> How do you combain to obtain a color scheme which match with the logo of
> that company you are developing/designing the site for?
> And this are minor questions you must answer before taking any major
> action.
> I am blind, I am for equality, but I am not ridiculous.
> I know that I can not edit graphics because I am blind and that is the
> case
> and also i know that with out graphics there are not trendy designs for
> web
> sites.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:54 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>
>
>>A growing community that I run for the blind, called Raeder 24, will one
>>day
>> change that if we can. We will break through these odds, show folks that
>> we
>> can, and then hopefully these companies will listen to us!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:59 PM
>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>
>> The concept of web design together with the concept blind is strange
>> enough:)
>> That is the reason that there is not web design software accesible.
>> You ask for this, as like as you would ask that adobe fotoshop must be
>> accessible.
>> If you speak about web developing, not design,
>> there is eclipse which does a good job for me.
>>
>> Also there is a soft named artisteer which seems to be accesible.
>> But, you know what is the problem with these "web design/developing"
>> software?
>> The problem is that their automated job makes a lot of useless code.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:15 AM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>
>>
>>> I'll be gradified when I am able to service the blind in this way. For
>>> just
>>> because we're blind, we should be able to do things the same way sighted
>>> folks can. We should have access to the same coding/scripting aids that
>>> sighted folks do! Equal access means equall access, not equal access
>>> for
>>> the average user only!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:43 PM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>>
>>> smile that's up to you, , for me, the best web design application is
>>> note
>>> pad, I hand code all my stuff.
>>>
>>> elf
>>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>>> for blind computer users and programmers
>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:44 PM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>>
>>>
>>>> You know, I've decided to get good at JAWS scripting combined with C
>>>> sharp
>>>> and AutoIt and make a set of JAWS scripts for MS expression web 3.0.
>>>> For
>>>> me, that and VWD and VS 2010 are the only good web design programs.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:35 PM
>>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with
>>>> JAWS?
>>>>
>>>> here would be my recommendations:
>>>> 1A. note tab:
>>>> http://www.fookes.com/notetab/index.php
>>>>
>>>> 1B. Arachnophilia 4.0
>>>> http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/index_old.html
>>>>
>>>> 1C. HTMLKit
>>>> www.chami.com/html-kit/
>>>> The HTML Kit Scripts for JAWS can be downloaded from:
>>>> http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/html_kit_scripts.php
>>>>
>>>> 2. AJAX
>>>> (I don't have this ones URL)
>>>>
>>>> 1: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/
>>>>
>>>> 2: http://www.pagetutor.com/
>>>>
>>>> 3: http://www.quackit.com
>>>>
>>>> 4: "Most Wanted Ajax Techniques: 50+ Examples and Tutorials"
>>>> from Noupe.com
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> inthane
>>>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>>>> for blind computer users and programmers
>>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>>>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "ferretdamce83" <ferretdance83@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 7:52 AM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This was posted on the general JAWS mailing list, but you guys seem to
>>>>> be
>>>>> more computer savvy, rather than just chatting about computer basics.
>>>>> Sorry to those that will have to see this post on both lists. Let me
>>>>> know
>>>>> what your advice is and if scripts will help any (and, if so, where
>>>>> can
>>>>> I
>>>>> get some?).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using CPanel for organizing/administering my website. Quite a few
>>>>> web
>>>>
>>>>> design programs are available to be added to MySQL. Some of these are:
>>>>> Mambo, Joomla, PHPWCMS, Siteframe, TYPO3, etc. What do you recommend?
>>>>> Anyone know of a website that tells you how to build your website
>>>>> step-by-step from start to finish?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With respect,
>>>>> Lori in Ohio
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