[jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
- From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 23:22:09 -0400
I personally hand code everything, either notePad or TextPad, I use HTML,
XML, JavaScript PHP and ColdFusion. I like to stick to these languages as my
customers can then make their own changes if they like, my experience has
been that not many are familiar with asp.net /C#. I've used DreamWeaver and
sometimes it generates so much unnecessary code that I spend too much time
fixing it up.
D!J!X!
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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of miketerry-lists
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:33 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
Pardon me for jumping in on this thread late. What development
language/ide/tool set do you use?
I'm trying to decide what my next language/platform will be. Either
asp.net, php or java.
I'm leaning towards asp.net/c# as it's real popular around Phoenix.
Thanks Mike
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From: "D!J!X!" <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:05 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
I personally have the advantage that my wife is a graphics designer, so for
my company, I do the coding, I even do the styles for the site, I learned
that as long as you really learn and understand the concepts of how css
works and the entire dom and how things are affected, you can at least get
that part done. The only 2 things my wife does for me is design the needed
graphics and choose the color scheme, as well as make sure that the final
product looks as I intended. And you are right, the websites I mostly build
always have ajax effects, the graphics for the rounded corners (plane
borders just don't cut it any more), the 3-d effects, the sliding, fading or
similar tranisitions of items, etc. Websites nowadays have to be designed to
be more like an application with more functionality and better looks. Those
that don't have this effect on the users are only visitted if the user
really needs that information. One of the things that I've found is that for
a lot of things using plane colors just doesn't cut it. For example most
website backgrounds don't use regular color codes to use as a background.
They are usually shades of different colors, gradients, different designs
etc. Sometimes it can be a graphic that's just a box filled with a desired
fancy color. To ensure the same display of it across browsers and systems we
use a graphic hat will esnure it looks the same across them all. Sometimes
we have to combine multiple graphics for different sections of the site to
give the site different effects such as 3d effects, or a pop up effect when
a user mouses over a menu item etc.
In the sighted world I've discovered they are dependent on seeing things
with graphics and charts and things of that nature, not just a plane old
text site. That's why my focus as a developer/designer is to bring that
modern look to a site while also developing accessible solutions for those
of us who use access technologies. In this way the customer (my client) gets
the best of both worlds: sighted users love the sites, effects, ease of use
and graphics, and those who use any kind of access technology can still have
an accessible site they can use. What helped me understand this better was
working at nasa, where I coded web appplications. You quickly begin to gain
lots of experience and learn all about the differences between desktop and
web design.
HTH, D!J!X!
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From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:13 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
Let me ask about one minor thing....
How do you choose the color scheme of an site?
How do you know what color to use together with what color?
How you are sure that what you are doing there is looking great?
This are questions from an web developer/designer with experience in the
field.
For now, I have a great theory in my experience and theoreticaly I know that
I can not combine red with green or other such combinations, but how do you
do fine ajustments?
You know that in this days, the design of a site is based on grafics with
specific efects, to obtain for example a button with slide doors efect?
or to obtain round corners for different parts?
How do you combain to obtain a color scheme which match with the logo of
that company you are developing/designing the site for?
And this are minor questions you must answer before taking any major action.
I am blind, I am for equality, but I am not ridiculous.
I know that I can not edit graphics because I am blind and that is the case
and also i know that with out graphics there are not trendy designs for web
sites.
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From: "katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 9:54 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>A growing community that I run for the blind, called Raeder 24, will one
>day
> change that if we can. We will break through these odds, show folks that
> we
> can, and then hopefully these companies will listen to us!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of black ares
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:59 PM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>
> The concept of web design together with the concept blind is strange
> enough:)
> That is the reason that there is not web design software accesible.
> You ask for this, as like as you would ask that adobe fotoshop must be
> accessible.
> If you speak about web developing, not design,
> there is eclipse which does a good job for me.
>
> Also there is a soft named artisteer which seems to be accesible.
> But, you know what is the problem with these "web design/developing"
> software?
> The problem is that their automated job makes a lot of useless code.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:15 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
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>
>> I'll be gradified when I am able to service the blind in this way. For
>> just
>> because we're blind, we should be able to do things the same way sighted
>> folks can. We should have access to the same coding/scripting aids that
>> sighted folks do! Equal access means equall access, not equal access for
>> the average user only!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:43 PM
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>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>
>> smile that's up to you, , for me, the best web design application is note
>> pad, I hand code all my stuff.
>>
>> elf
>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>> for blind computer users and programmers
>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:44 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>
>>
>>> You know, I've decided to get good at JAWS scripting combined with C
>>> sharp
>>> and AutoIt and make a set of JAWS scripts for MS expression web 3.0.
>>> For
>>> me, that and VWD and VS 2010 are the only good web design programs.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:35 PM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>>
>>> here would be my recommendations:
>>> 1A. note tab:
>>> http://www.fookes.com/notetab/index.php
>>>
>>> 1B. Arachnophilia 4.0
>>> http://www.arachnoid.com/arachnophilia/index_old.html
>>>
>>> 1C. HTMLKit
>>> www.chami.com/html-kit/
>>> The HTML Kit Scripts for JAWS can be downloaded from:
>>> http://gutterstar.net/mbrs/html_kit_scripts.php
>>>
>>> 2. AJAX
>>> (I don't have this ones URL)
>>>
>>> 1: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/
>>>
>>> 2: http://www.pagetutor.com/
>>>
>>> 3: http://www.quackit.com
>>>
>>> 4: "Most Wanted Ajax Techniques: 50+ Examples and Tutorials"
>>> from Noupe.com
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> inthane
>>> proprietor, The Grab Bag,
>>> for blind computer users and programmers
>>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>>> Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises
>>> Specialists in customized computers and peripherals
>>> - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn!
>>> www.alacorncomputer.com
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "ferretdamce83" <ferretdance83@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 7:52 AM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] What web design programs work well with JAWS?
>>>
>>>
>>>> This was posted on the general JAWS mailing list, but you guys seem to
>>>> be
>>>> more computer savvy, rather than just chatting about computer basics.
>>>> Sorry to those that will have to see this post on both lists. Let me
>>>> know
>>>> what your advice is and if scripts will help any (and, if so, where can
>>>> I
>>>> get some?).
>>>>
>>>> I am using CPanel for organizing/administering my website. Quite a few
>>>> web
>>>
>>>> design programs are available to be added to MySQL. Some of these are:
>>>> Mambo, Joomla, PHPWCMS, Siteframe, TYPO3, etc. What do you recommend?
>>>> Anyone know of a website that tells you how to build your website
>>>> step-by-step from start to finish?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With respect,
>>>> Lori in Ohio
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