[jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set Editor?
- From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:03:12 -0700
Dan Rugman is soon to be releasing Sibelius Access for Sibelius 6.
-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:54 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set
Editor?
He was referring to me, Annabelle. My understanding is that the last
version for accessing Sibelius was v. 5.
Perhaps subscribing to the Midi Mag list at:
midimag-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx
would be of use. Once you're subscribed up, u could post your queries
there. This list is actually more designed for discussion of
problems/tips/techniques/educational materials for scripting Jaws
applications than it is for finding scripts per se, though we do try
to help w/that when we can.
But u would likely be helped more on a music-related list, since
you're more apt to find users of the particular application(s) about
which you're inquiring.
Good luck.
On 4/10/12, Geoff Chapman <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Fair enough Annabell.
> Sound set edotir, not sound skulpting editor tool per Se. Ok I got that.
>
> So do you have any further comments re the rest of my response?
>
> Thanks much.
> G.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:59 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set
> Editor?
>
>
>> HI Annabelle.
>>
>> Since as you've no doubt observed, noone has as yet responded to your
>> queeries for assistance/information re your sibelius sound editor
>> accessibility issues,
>> Although i have no personal knowledge at all of the particular
>> software/sound editor component in question, I did used to mess with
>> music
>> editing Software myself, and can only tell you that you may be up for a
>> potentially disappointing time, re your understandable desire for
complete
>> blind-friendly access to this type of software.
>>
>> May I ask you first, how Long you've been working with Jaws/music
creation
>> software yourself? And what education level student are you at present?
>> Also, Are you yourself blind/vision impaired?
>>
>> Firstly I'll warn up front, that the below may not at all be something
>> you'll be ready/wanting to hear. and I am sorry about this, and wish to
>> prepare you before I convey.
>>
>> but, As you may know, Many appplications these days, are simply not
>> developed with the blind/screen-reader access user in mind at all. And
>> hense utilization of standard keyboard accessible/opperable controls, as
>> you list below, is commonly not taken into consideration during
>> development
>> of many applications, most particularly in this kind of sound-editing
>> environment..
>> Would that be a fair call to say You think Jackie?
>>
>> I well remember when I was really into this kind of thing myself, how
>> really
>> emotionally irritating, and difficult, this was to hear.
>>
>> I felt blocked off from being able to fully express my stuff with what I
>> wanted to do with music software, and many of us have felt this pain too.
>> Not that this makes it any easier for you I know.
>> Particularly If this is the first time you've struck these types of
>> accessibility barriers .
>>
>> To make a non-standardized application,fully keyboard navigable, and
>> editable, is thus notin any way, a simple process, even if it be a
dooable
>> one at all! And even this is not certain. a Great deal depends on simply
>> a
>> verritable host of factors, particularly related to
>> how the developer has implemented/utilized her/his development
>> environment,
>> and the subsequent user-interface, (UI,) control of the application.
>>
>> I.e. much of it can often be very graphical/object oriented in nature,
>> designed to be operated/nomipulated with the mouse only.
>>
>> This is not to say necessarily exclusively, but very often primarily.
>>
>> Have you been in touch with the Sibelius developers at all?
>> There was a company called Dancing Dots, who used to produce JAWS scripts
>> for sibelius access, but I've no idea whether they're still involved in
>> doing that now, or what version jaws support has kept pace with.
>>
>> But, they're probably your best bet to be contacting first, regarding
your
>> issues, and to what level of developer contact they either have or may've
>> had, to begin working on just how far you might expect to be able to go
>> with
>> this.
>>
>> their website HOmepage Address is:
>> http://www.dancingdots.com
>>
>> And the part which I've just discovered talks about discontinuation of
>> sibelius support, is:
>> http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/SibSpeaking.htm
>>
>> They do talk about another product line though on that site which you may
>> wish to check out.
>>
>> David Pinto who used to be the mainstream developer of that product, is a
>> member of this list though, and perhaps he could tell you a little more
>> about why that product needed to be discontinued, and/or what direction
>> the
>> app might've taken since then?
>>
>> I hope this helps a little annabell.
>>
>> Geoff c.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:30 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set
>> Editor?
>>
>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;
>>> charset="us-ascii"
>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>> Hi, it's Annabelle.
>>> I use JAWS 10.0 with a bunch of applications, and I have run into a
>>> serious
>>> situation. I am having a lot of trouble accessing the Sibelius Sound Set
>>> Editor with Adobe Air. Is there a way to make the Sound Set Editor
>>> accessible to blind customers like me? In other words, make it
accessible
>>> with a menu bar, text-based buttons and controls, and
>>> screenreader-friendly
>>> options? Here is a list of controls that I've heard are recognized by
>>> JAWS.
>>> Note that these controls have to have text-based icons that go with
them,
>>> since JAWS does not read and recognize icons with bitmap images.
>>> 1. 3-State Button
>>> 2. Button
>>> 3. Button Menu
>>> 4. Checkbox
>>> 5. Combo Box
>>> 6. Dialogue
>>> 7. Edit
>>> 8. Edit Combo
>>> 9. Extended Select List Box
>>> 10. Graphic
>>> 11. Group Box
>>> 12. Header Bar
>>> 13. Hot Key
>>> 14. Left-Right Slider
>>> 15. List Box
>>> 16. List View
>>> 17. MS Active Accessibility
>>> 18. Multiline Edit
>>> 19. Multi Select List Box
>>> 20. Password Edit
>>> 21. Radio Button
>>> 22. Read Only Edit
>>> 23. SpinBox
>>> 24. Static
>>> 25. Status Bar
>>> 26. Tab Control
>>> 27. Toolbar
>>> 28. Tool Tip
>>> 29. Tree View
>>> 30. Up-Down Slider
>>> If any of you fellow JAWS scripting members have any further
information,
>>> questions, or suggestions for me, please feel free to Email me at any
>>> time,
>>> as I check my Emails several times each day.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Annabelle
>>> foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> _____
>>>
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4649 - Release Date:
11/30/11
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4909 - Release Date:
04/01/12
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4910 - Release Date:
04/02/12
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4910 - Release Date:
04/02/12
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4910 - Release Date:
04/02/12
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4912 - Release Date:
04/03/12
>>>
>>> _____
>>>
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2409/4915 - Release Date:
04/04/12
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> __________
>>>
>>> View the list's information and change your settings at
>>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>>
>>>
>>
>> __________
>>
>> View the list's information and change your settings at
>> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>>
>
> __________
>
> View the list's information and change your settings at
> //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
>
>
--
Blame the computer--why not? It can't defend itself & occasionally
might even be the culprit
Jackie McBride
Ask Me Computer Questions at: www.pcinquirer.com
Jaws Scripting training materials: www.screenreaderscripting.com
homePage: www.abletec.serverheaven.net
__________
View the list's information and change your settings at
//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
-----
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4926 - Release Date: 04/10/12
-----
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2411/4927 - Release Date: 04/10/12
__________�
View the list's information and change your settings at
//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts
Other related posts:
