He was referring to me, Annabelle. My understanding is that the last version for accessing Sibelius was v. 5. Perhaps subscribing to the Midi Mag list at: midimag-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxx would be of use. Once you're subscribed up, u could post your queries there. This list is actually more designed for discussion of problems/tips/techniques/educational materials for scripting Jaws applications than it is for finding scripts per se, though we do try to help w/that when we can. But u would likely be helped more on a music-related list, since you're more apt to find users of the particular application(s) about which you're inquiring. Good luck. On 4/10/12, Geoff Chapman <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Fair enough Annabell. > Sound set edotir, not sound skulpting editor tool per Se. Ok I got that. > > So do you have any further comments re the rest of my response? > > Thanks much. > G. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:59 PM > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set > Editor? > > >> HI Annabelle. >> >> Since as you've no doubt observed, noone has as yet responded to your >> queeries for assistance/information re your sibelius sound editor >> accessibility issues, >> Although i have no personal knowledge at all of the particular >> software/sound editor component in question, I did used to mess with >> music >> editing Software myself, and can only tell you that you may be up for a >> potentially disappointing time, re your understandable desire for complete >> blind-friendly access to this type of software. >> >> May I ask you first, how Long you've been working with Jaws/music creation >> software yourself? And what education level student are you at present? >> Also, Are you yourself blind/vision impaired? >> >> Firstly I'll warn up front, that the below may not at all be something >> you'll be ready/wanting to hear. and I am sorry about this, and wish to >> prepare you before I convey. >> >> but, As you may know, Many appplications these days, are simply not >> developed with the blind/screen-reader access user in mind at all. And >> hense utilization of standard keyboard accessible/opperable controls, as >> you list below, is commonly not taken into consideration during >> development >> of many applications, most particularly in this kind of sound-editing >> environment.. >> Would that be a fair call to say You think Jackie? >> >> I well remember when I was really into this kind of thing myself, how >> really >> emotionally irritating, and difficult, this was to hear. >> >> I felt blocked off from being able to fully express my stuff with what I >> wanted to do with music software, and many of us have felt this pain too. >> Not that this makes it any easier for you I know. >> Particularly If this is the first time you've struck these types of >> accessibility barriers . >> >> To make a non-standardized application,fully keyboard navigable, and >> editable, is thus notin any way, a simple process, even if it be a dooable >> one at all! And even this is not certain. a Great deal depends on simply >> a >> verritable host of factors, particularly related to >> how the developer has implemented/utilized her/his development >> environment, >> and the subsequent user-interface, (UI,) control of the application. >> >> I.e. much of it can often be very graphical/object oriented in nature, >> designed to be operated/nomipulated with the mouse only. >> >> This is not to say necessarily exclusively, but very often primarily. >> >> Have you been in touch with the Sibelius developers at all? >> There was a company called Dancing Dots, who used to produce JAWS scripts >> for sibelius access, but I've no idea whether they're still involved in >> doing that now, or what version jaws support has kept pace with. >> >> But, they're probably your best bet to be contacting first, regarding your >> issues, and to what level of developer contact they either have or may've >> had, to begin working on just how far you might expect to be able to go >> with >> this. >> >> their website HOmepage Address is: >> http://www.dancingdots.com >> >> And the part which I've just discovered talks about discontinuation of >> sibelius support, is: >> http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/SibSpeaking.htm >> >> They do talk about another product line though on that site which you may >> wish to check out. >> >> David Pinto who used to be the mainstream developer of that product, is a >> member of this list though, and perhaps he could tell you a little more >> about why that product needed to be discontinued, and/or what direction >> the >> app might've taken since then? >> >> I hope this helps a little annabell. >> >> Geoff c. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:30 PM >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set >> Editor? >> >> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; >>> charset="us-ascii" >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> Hi, it's Annabelle. >>> I use JAWS 10.0 with a bunch of applications, and I have run into a >>> serious >>> situation. I am having a lot of trouble accessing the Sibelius Sound Set >>> Editor with Adobe Air. Is there a way to make the Sound Set Editor >>> accessible to blind customers like me? In other words, make it accessible >>> with a menu bar, text-based buttons and controls, and >>> screenreader-friendly >>> options? Here is a list of controls that I've heard are recognized by >>> JAWS. >>> Note that these controls have to have text-based icons that go with them, >>> since JAWS does not read and recognize icons with bitmap images. >>> 1. 3-State Button >>> 2. Button >>> 3. Button Menu >>> 4. Checkbox >>> 5. Combo Box >>> 6. Dialogue >>> 7. Edit >>> 8. Edit Combo >>> 9. Extended Select List Box >>> 10. Graphic >>> 11. Group Box >>> 12. Header Bar >>> 13. Hot Key >>> 14. Left-Right Slider >>> 15. List Box >>> 16. List View >>> 17. MS Active Accessibility >>> 18. Multiline Edit >>> 19. Multi Select List Box >>> 20. Password Edit >>> 21. Radio Button >>> 22. Read Only Edit >>> 23. SpinBox >>> 24. Static >>> 25. Status Bar >>> 26. Tab Control >>> 27. Toolbar >>> 28. Tool Tip >>> 29. Tree View >>> 30. 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