[jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set Editor?

  • From: Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:07:50 -0400

Sibelius Speaking worked with Sibelius version 3, 
or was it 2? Anyway, that hasn't been developed in years.

Currently our only option is Sibelius Access, a 
free set of scripts for Sibelius 5.25, soon to be 
released for Sibelius 6.

Chris

At 09:45 PM 4/10/2012, you wrote:
>I Thought our CakeTalking friends at 
>DancingDots.com had a package for this
>editor.  No?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:59 AM
>Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility 
>For Sibelius Sound Set
>Editor?
>
>
>HI Annabelle.
>
>Since as you've no doubt observed, noone has as yet responded to your
>queeries for assistance/information re your sibelius sound editor
>accessibility issues,
>Although i have no personal knowledge at all of the particular
>software/sound editor component  in question, I 
>did used to mess with music
>editing Software myself, and can only tell you 
>that you may be up for a
>potentially disappointing time, re your 
>understandable desire for complete
>blind-friendly access to this type of software.
>
>May I ask you first, how Long you've been 
>working with Jaws/music creation
>software yourself?  And what education level 
>student are you at present?
>Also, Are you yourself blind/vision impaired?
>
>Firstly I'll warn up front, that the below may not at all be something
>you'll be ready/wanting to hear. and I am sorry 
>about this, and wish to
>prepare you before I convey.
>
>but, As you may know, Many appplications these days, are simply not
>developed with the blind/screen-reader access 
>user in mind at all.  And
>hense utilization of standard keyboard 
>accessible/opperable  controls, as
>you list below, is commonly not taken into 
>consideration during development
>of many applications, most particularly in this kind of sound-editing
>environment..
>Would that be a fair call to say You think Jackie?
>
>I well remember when I was really into this kind 
>of thing myself, how really
>emotionally irritating, and difficult, this was to hear.
>
>I felt blocked off from being able to fully 
>express my stuff with what I
>wanted to do with music software, and many of us 
>have felt this pain too.
>Not that this makes it any easier for you I know.
>Particularly If this is the first time you've struck these types of
>accessibility barriers .
>
>To make a non-standardized  application,fully keyboard navigable, and
>editable, is thus notin any way, a simple 
>process, even if it be a dooable
>one at all!  And even this is not certain. a 
>Great deal depends on simply a
>verritable host of factors, particularly related to
>how the developer has implemented/utilized 
>her/his development  environment,
>and the subsequent user-interface, (UI,) control of the application.
>
>I.e. much of it can often be very 
>graphical/object oriented  in nature,
>designed to be operated/nomipulated with the mouse only.
>
>This is not to say necessarily exclusively, but very often primarily.
>
>Have you been in touch with the Sibelius developers at all?
>There was a company called Dancing Dots, who 
>used to produce JAWS scripts
>for sibelius access, but I've no idea whether 
>they're still involved in
>doing that now, or what version jaws support has kept pace with.
>
>But, they're probably your best bet to be 
>contacting first, regarding your
>issues, and to what level of developer contact 
>they either have or may've
>had, to begin working on just how far you might 
>expect to be able to go with
>this.
>
>their website HOmepage Address is:
>http://www.dancingdots.com
>
>And the part which I've just discovered talks about discontinuation of
>sibelius support, is:
>http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/SibSpeaking.htm
>
>They do talk about another product line though 
>on that site which you may
>wish to check out.
>
>David Pinto who used to be the mainstream 
>developer of that product, is a
>member of this list though, and perhaps he could 
>tell you a little more
>about why that product needed to be 
>discontinued, and/or what direction the
>app might've taken since then?
>
>I hope this helps a little annabell.
>
>Geoff c.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:30 PM
>Subject: [jawsscripts] Urgent! Accessibility For 
>Sibelius Sound Set Editor?
>
>
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> > Hi, it's Annabelle.
> > I use JAWS 10.0 with a bunch of applications, and I have run into a
> > serious
> > situation. I am having a lot of trouble 
> accessing the Sibelius Sound Set
> > Editor with Adobe Air. Is there a way to make the Sound Set Editor
> > accessible to blind customers like me? In 
> other words, make it accessible
> > with a menu bar, text-based buttons and controls, and
> > screenreader-friendly
> > options? Here is a list of controls that I've 
> heard are recognized by
> > JAWS.
> > Note that these controls have to have 
> text-based icons that go with them,
> > since JAWS does not read and recognize icons with bitmap images.
> > 1. 3-State Button
> > 2. Button
> > 3. Button Menu
> > 4. Checkbox
> > 5. Combo Box
> > 6. Dialogue
> > 7. Edit
> > 8. Edit Combo
> > 9. Extended Select List Box
> > 10. Graphic
> > 11. Group Box
> > 12. Header Bar
> > 13. Hot Key
> > 14. Left-Right Slider
> > 15. List Box
> > 16. List View
> > 17. MS Active Accessibility
> > 18. Multiline Edit
> > 19. Multi Select List Box
> > 20. Password Edit
> > 21. Radio Button
> > 22. Read Only Edit
> > 23. SpinBox
> > 24. Static
> > 25. Status Bar
> > 26. Tab Control
> > 27. Toolbar
> > 28. Tool Tip
> > 29. Tree View
> > 30. Up-Down Slider
> > If any of you fellow JAWS scripting members 
> have any further information,
> > questions, or suggestions for me, please feel 
> free to Email me at any
> > time,
> > as I check my Emails several times each day.
> > Kind Regards,
> > Annabelle
> > foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx
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