[jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility For Sibelius Sound Set Editor?
- From: Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:03:06 -0400
if you're in college, are the college willing to
pay someone to script what you need scripted?
A little money to the scriptor would sure motivate them.
At 09:02 PM 4/10/2012, you wrote:
>1. I'm totally blind (I've been that way since birth).
>2. I've been working with Music Software
>accessible to blind students since
>I started college back in 2003.
>3. I'm presently a college student.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Geoff Chapman
>Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:40 PM
>To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility
>For Sibelius Sound Set
>Editor?
>
>Fair enough Annabell.
>Sound set edotir, not sound skulpting editor
>tool per Se. Ok I got that.
>
>So do you have any further comments re the rest of my response?
>
>Thanks much.
>G.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:59 PM
>Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Urgent! Accessibility
>For Sibelius Sound Set
>Editor?
>
>
> > HI Annabelle.
> >
> > Since as you've no doubt observed, noone has
> as yet responded to your
> > queeries for assistance/information re your sibelius sound editor
> > accessibility issues,
> > Although i have no personal knowledge at all of the particular
> > software/sound editor component in question,
> I did used to mess with
> > music
> > editing Software myself, and can only tell
> you that you may be up for a
> > potentially disappointing time, re your
> understandable desire for complete
> > blind-friendly access to this type of software.
> >
> > May I ask you first, how Long you've been
> working with Jaws/music creation
> > software yourself? And what education level
> student are you at present?
> > Also, Are you yourself blind/vision impaired?
> >
> > Firstly I'll warn up front, that the below
> may not at all be something
> > you'll be ready/wanting to hear. and I am
> sorry about this, and wish to
> > prepare you before I convey.
> >
> > but, As you may know, Many appplications these days, are simply not
> > developed with the blind/screen-reader access
> user in mind at all. And
> > hense utilization of standard keyboard
> accessible/opperable controls, as
> > you list below, is commonly not taken into consideration during
> > development
> > of many applications, most particularly in
> this kind of sound-editing
> > environment..
> > Would that be a fair call to say You think Jackie?
> >
> > I well remember when I was really into this
> kind of thing myself, how
> > really
> > emotionally irritating, and difficult, this was to hear.
> >
> > I felt blocked off from being able to fully
> express my stuff with what I
> > wanted to do with music software, and many of
> us have felt this pain too.
> > Not that this makes it any easier for you I know.
> > Particularly If this is the first time you've struck these types of
> > accessibility barriers .
> >
> > To make a non-standardized application,fully
> keyboard navigable, and
> > editable, is thus notin any way, a simple
> process, even if it be a dooable
> > one at all! And even this is not certain. a
> Great deal depends on simply
> > a
> > verritable host of factors, particularly related to
> > how the developer has implemented/utilized her/his development
> > environment,
> > and the subsequent user-interface, (UI,)
> control of the application.
> >
> > I.e. much of it can often be very
> graphical/object oriented in nature,
> > designed to be operated/nomipulated with the mouse only.
> >
> > This is not to say necessarily exclusively,
> but very often primarily.
> >
> > Have you been in touch with the Sibelius developers at all?
> > There was a company called Dancing Dots, who
> used to produce JAWS scripts
> > for sibelius access, but I've no idea whether
> they're still involved in
> > doing that now, or what version jaws support has kept pace with.
> >
> > But, they're probably your best bet to be
> contacting first, regarding your
> > issues, and to what level of developer
> contact they either have or may've
> > had, to begin working on just how far you
> might expect to be able to go
> > with
> > this.
> >
> > their website HOmepage Address is:
> > http://www.dancingdots.com
> >
> > And the part which I've just discovered talks
> about discontinuation of
> > sibelius support, is:
> > http://www.dancingdots.com/prodesc/SibSpeaking.htm
> >
> > They do talk about another product line
> though on that site which you may
> > wish to check out.
> >
> > David Pinto who used to be the mainstream
> developer of that product, is a
> > member of this list though, and perhaps he
> could tell you a little more
> > about why that product needed to be
> discontinued, and/or what direction
> > the
> > app might've taken since then?
> >
> > I hope this helps a little annabell.
> >
> > Geoff c.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Annabelle Susan Morison" <foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:30 PM
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Urgent! Accessibility
> For Sibelius Sound Set
> > Editor?
> >
> >
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> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >> Hi, it's Annabelle.
> >> I use JAWS 10.0 with a bunch of
> applications, and I have run into a
> >> serious
> >> situation. I am having a lot of trouble
> accessing the Sibelius Sound Set
> >> Editor with Adobe Air. Is there a way to make the Sound Set Editor
> >> accessible to blind customers like me? In
> other words, make it accessible
> >> with a menu bar, text-based buttons and controls, and
> >> screenreader-friendly
> >> options? Here is a list of controls that
> I've heard are recognized by
> >> JAWS.
> >> Note that these controls have to have
> text-based icons that go with them,
> >> since JAWS does not read and recognize icons with bitmap images.
> >> 1. 3-State Button
> >> 2. Button
> >> 3. Button Menu
> >> 4. Checkbox
> >> 5. Combo Box
> >> 6. Dialogue
> >> 7. Edit
> >> 8. Edit Combo
> >> 9. Extended Select List Box
> >> 10. Graphic
> >> 11. Group Box
> >> 12. Header Bar
> >> 13. Hot Key
> >> 14. Left-Right Slider
> >> 15. List Box
> >> 16. List View
> >> 17. MS Active Accessibility
> >> 18. Multiline Edit
> >> 19. Multi Select List Box
> >> 20. Password Edit
> >> 21. Radio Button
> >> 22. Read Only Edit
> >> 23. SpinBox
> >> 24. Static
> >> 25. Status Bar
> >> 26. Tab Control
> >> 27. Toolbar
> >> 28. Tool Tip
> >> 29. Tree View
> >> 30. Up-Down Slider
> >> If any of you fellow JAWS scripting members
> have any further information,
> >> questions, or suggestions for me, please
> feel free to Email me at any
> >> time,
> >> as I check my Emails several times each day.
> >> Kind Regards,
> >> Annabelle
> >> foristnights@xxxxxxxxxxx
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