[jawsscripts] Re: Scripting question

  • From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:36:16 +1000

But, Jim doesn't the customSingleLeftClick do the same job in one fell 
swoop? I'd thought that it did.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Snowbarger" <Snowman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:16 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripting question


> To do that in hotSpotClicker, choose leftMouseButtonLock as the initial
> action, then add LeftMouseButtonLock as the post processing function.
> The first action locks it, the post processing action unlocks it.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:45 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripting question
>
>
> cool. let us know if it works both manually and using hsc?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dang Manh Cuong" <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:41 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripting question
>
>
>> Thanks for your suggestion. I'll try it tomorrow.
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Geoff Chapman
>>  To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>  Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:34 PM
>>  Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripting question
>>
>>  Hi Dang .
>>
>>  Yes, I too thought along the same lines as Travis here, re diagnostics 
>> of
>>  what was actually being observed. despite confusion over the JawsKey 
>> left
>>  mouse click emulation shortcut etc.
>>  i.e. forgetting scripting or HotSpotClicker for the moment,
>>  manually Pressing Jaws' leftClick emulation keyboard shortcut, is not
>>  activating the click, where leftClicking the physical mouse will work.
>>
>>  Like Travis, I too have also seen this behaviour from time to time, most
>>  recently several years back in a sonar pluggin.
>>
>>  What  I discovered there, which you might try instead when your sure the
>>  jaws cursor/mouse is correctly positioned, is, Double Clicking the Jaws
>>  LeftMouseButtonLock command instead.
>>  I.e. if in laptop keyboard layout,
>>  Hold Down Control+Windows, and Double Click TopRow number 8.
>>  Or, if in desktop Layout, Hold Down Insert and DoublePress NumPad Slash.
>>  It may feel a bit disconcerting, Coz as you do it
>>  -jaws will announce something like, LeftButtonLock, LeftButtonUnlock, as
>> you
>>  do it,
>>  But, if this properly emulates the Real Mouse, as it did in my case 
>> where
>>  normal keyboard LeftClick emulation didn't, then, either:
>>  (a.) Redefine your hotspot, but this time, instead of choosing the
>> default
>>  LeftClick action, arrow down once to instead choose the, "left Single
>> Custom
>>  Click" action.
>>  or,
>>  (b.) Launch the HotSpot Definition editor with ControlAltShiftF4, and
>> choose
>>  your already defined hotspot from the list.
>>  Then, locate the line which begins,
>>  action=...
>>
>>  And alter the number to the right of the equals sign, to be 28.
>>  Tip: when focused on this action= line, you can also very handily press
>>  ControlAltShiftF12, to cycle forwards through the possible actions, or
>>  controlAltShiftF11, to Cycle backwards through your action 
>> possibilities.
>>
>>  There is another self-explanitory parameter you'll see in the 
>> definition,
>>  related to CustomClicks,  which can be set to force the CustomClick
>> action
>>  to wait a specified amount of time before performing it, which you can
>> mess
>>  with if you need to.
>>  but I don't think you will.
>>
>>  Here's a snippet from the Help File about this.
>>
>>
>>  In addition, special custom time delay mouse click actions can also be
>>  chosen, which can effectively be used to work around
>>  situations where using the normal jaws mouse click emulation keys, 
>> simply
>>  does not effect the same results as clicking the actual physical mouse
>>  buttons.
>>  These custom click actions can also be used to force the mouse to hover
>> for
>>  a specifiable time at the spot before clicking, to give the program any
>>  necessary
>>  time to bring about certain results through the process of mouse over
>>  hovering, before the click action is performed.
>>
>>  heading.
>>  Custom Mouse Clicks.
>>
>>  This helps deal with the occasional situation where clicking the left or
>>  right button on the physical mouse, is different from clicking the jaws
>> left
>>  mouse
>>  button. In such cases, using one of the custom click options should 
>> allow
>>  you to simulate clicking the actual mouse.
>>
>>  There are two parameters in the definition which control the behavior of
>> the
>>  custom click. Use the definition editor to alter these if you need other
>>  than
>>  default behavior>
>>
>>  list of 2 items
>>  â?¢ CustomClickHover"Time - specified in tenths of a second, this
>> controls how
>>  long the mouse must hover at the target location before the click is
>>  performed.
>>  Default is 0.
>>  â?¢ CustomClickDuration - in tenths of a second. This is done by locking
>> the
>>  mouse button, waiting the amount of time specified in this parameter,
>> then
>>  unlocking
>>  the mouse button. Default is 1.
>>  list end
>>
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: "Travis Roth" <travis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>  To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>  Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:36 PM
>>  Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripting question
>>
>>
>>  >I think what's being said is the JAWS LeftMouseButton() script isn't
>>  >activating the graphical button, while a physical press of the left
>> mouse
>>  >button does.
>>  > I've seen this from time to time over the years though I cannot think
>> of
>>  > an example at the moment
>>  >
>>  > If this is indeed the case you may have to look for another way. I
>> assume
>>  > that there is not a keyboard shortcut such as alt+F4, or alt+space x,
>> to
>>  > do this or you'd not be trying to script it?
>>  > Possibly sending some sort of window close message by using
>> SendMessage()
>>  > would work around the problem? Sorry I do not have code to show an
>> example
>>  > of this right now.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>  > From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>  > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie McBride
>>  > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:59 PM
>>  > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>  > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scripting question
>>  >
>>  > Dang, Have u labeled the graphic? Could u show us your code?
>>  >
>>  > On 6/19/12, Dang Manh Cuong <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>  >> Hi listers
>>  >> I wrote a little script to activate the "minimize to tray" graphic on
>>  >> the Internet download manager's download window by performming a left
>>  >> double click. However, when I press the hot key, the Jaws cursor 
>> moved
>>  >> to the location where I want, but the left click didn't work. I try 
>> to
>>  >> activate this grapic by hitting Jawskey+8, but it still not work.
>>  >> When I press the left mouse on the touch path, it works very well.
>>  >> Anyone who know how to fix it, please help me.
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