[jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install

Hi Ann

The JAWS sound card submenu will have an entry for the Windows default sound
card, and an entry for each working sound card on your system.  If your menu
only has entries for Windows default and Sound Blaster, this would mean that
the Sound Blaster is the only working sound card on your system, so it would
also be the Windows default.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ann Medlar
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:21 PM
To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install


Hi Geoff,
Honestly, I am not confident with sound card info.  I followed directions.
I installed J1151, went to utility menu, sound card sub menu, entered on
sound blaster.  Then I rebooted.  Did not hear any difference in sound of
Jaws.  Tried to start Scratch Live and lost voice.  Rebooted, set sound to
Windows default, started scratch live again and got Jaws off station sound.
Alt key did not bring up any menus.  Tried alt+t, alt+f and no good.  Tried
control+alt+0 - 9 and nothing.
Any ideas on sound card.  It seems to me that I am not activating 2 cards
but just using one of the card choices.  Am I right on this?
BTW, no problems with alt+tab key to swithch applicateions.
BTW I had to download J1151 because update would not take.
Ann

Jaws key read Rain hardware disabled.  I think last line of window stated
all artist song.  Prior lines just had a graphic no.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:09 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install


> ALSO DID YOU TRY THE JAWS 10 SOUND CARD SWITCHING MANAGER OPTIONS UNDER
> UTILITY MENU? MAYBE THEY'LL WORK FOR YOU!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:48 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>
>
>> Hello Geoff,
>> Reason for my Scratch Live is that I am trying to script software for a
>> local DJ.
>> I am using Windows XP and Jaws10.x.  If I upgrade Jaws then do I need to
>> repeat this process each time FS has a Jaws upgrade?
>> Well I used the find command to get JFW.ini.  I copied file into my
>> documents as backup.
>> How do I know that added statement is correct spelling or syntax?I
>> changed
>> file as follows:
>> [Options]
>> ; If FirewallCheck is set to 1, JAWS will attempt to check if a firewall
>> ; application is running by prematurely triggering the firewall when
>> ; JAWS starts.  This setting is off by default and is ignored when JAWS
>> ; is set to run at Windows startup.
>> FirewallCheck=0
>> ; If AutoUpdatesEnabled is set to 1, the you can query for JAWS updates
>> ; from the main menu.
>> AutoUpdatesEnabled=1
>> ; Source path of the Automatic Updates Dll.  Multiple paths are delimited
>> ; by a semi-colon.
>>
>
UpdateDllSource=ftp://ftp.FreedomScientific.com/users/hj/private/WebFiles/Au
> toUpdate/JAWSUpd
>>
>>
>
ate.dll;http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/AutoUpdate/JAWSUpdate.dl
> l
>>
>> [Synthesizers]
>> Synth1Name=eloq
>> Synth1LongName=Eloquence Software
>> Synth1Driver=eloq
>> ;; added line 5/20/09 Ann Medlar
>> Synth1Port=SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
>> ; end add  on 5/20/09 A Medlar
>> Synth2Name=SAPI 5X
>> Synth2LongName=SAPI 5
>> Synth2Driver=sapi5x
>> Synth3Name=RealSpeak
>> Synth3LongName=RealSpeak Solo Direct
>> Synth3Driver=RealSpeak
>> [Remote Access]
>> UseVirtualSpeech=1
>> UseVirtualBraille=1
>> No sighted help around so I hesitate to experiment.  I think I'll wait
> until
>> I hear from my friend who btw is far away from me.
>> Ann
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:22 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>>
>>
>> > ok GianniP46. hang on a second here.
>> > are you saying that this scratch live thing requires another add-on
> piece
>> > of
>> > hardware/equipment to even run/be in the least useful for it's
>> > application?
>> > which contains it's own audio device in that hardware?
>> > Because, if this is the case, did you realize this ann? What exactly is
>> > the
>> > task your wanting to solve here with this program ann? we better find
> out
>> > if
>> > it is really what you want/need, before we go much further in trying to
>> > solve this one, re configuration of jaws into separate sound cards and
> the
>> > complexities of that one,
>> > ought not we?
>> >
>> > Ann. well, ... ok here's the complexity.
>> > jaws10, for the first time,
>> > has finally implemented a sound card/audio device, (they mean the same
>> > thing
>> > by the way,)
>> > manager, right into the utilities submenu  from their main application
>> > context menu, if jaws is running in system tray.
>> > i.e. if it is, and if you have jaws 10, you could try hitting insert+j,
>> > then
>> > down arrowing to utilities, then right arrowing, and looking at the
>> > list
>> > of
>> > available ports in your available sound cards, and hitting enter on the
>> > one
>> > you'd like.
>> > I say, try, this, because, it's the very first itteration of this
> feature,
>> > and, well all I can tell you from my own personal experience having
>> > just
>> > tested it here on my system, is, it doesn't work for me!
>> > even closing and restarting jaws, even though it shows a checkmark in
> that
>> > menu when I go back in there, next to the sound card/audio device I
>> > want
>> > it
>> > to use, it's definitely not being output from that device!
>> >
>> > Now of course I don't know whether this is something in my local system
>> > here, I presume so for surely they couldn't release it if it plain
> didn't
>> > work, but, as I say, my experience today was here it didn't.
>> >
>> > So, there's a more techy "back end," way, of forcing jaws to use the
>> > soundcard you want it to use. and this does work for me under windows
> xp,
>> > it's what I use to make it happen. and it'll obviously also work for
> jaws
>> > versions earlier than 10.
>> >
>> > now when I say this, i add the important following caveats!
>> > 1. this is using windows xp.  if you've got windows vista installed,
> which
>> > you may well have since you mention it as  a new pc, then this might
>> > not
>> > work either! and you may have to get your kind friend around for you
>> > who
>> > suggests such gymnastics as she/he has, and ask them to help you out
> with
>> > that.
>> > 2. this is something in my view, that you don't wanna mess with alone,
>> > since
>> > if you mess it up, you might get yourself into a situation of having no
>> > speech output from jaws
>> > at all, if your speech synth is misdirected to some audio device that
>> > doesn't exist or whatever.  So I caution you to have sighted help
>> > around
>> > before attempting any of this.
>> > The following instructions may thus only be valid for a windows xp
>> > installation.
>> >
>> > the back end way which we've done this for years is:
>> > 1. open my computer, go to program files, then freedom scientific,
>> > (i.e.
>> > not
>> > freedom scientific installation information,)
>> > then into the folder called jaws, (i.e. not "runTime jaws, just jaws,"
>> > then
>> > into the version of jaws you have installed, i.e. 9.0, 10.0 etc.
>> >
>> > 2. hit alt+v, then l, to insure your list is in an upDown
>> > configuration,
>> > and
>> > not in multiple columns across the screen.
>> >
>> > 3. hit alt+v, then i, for arrange icons, then see if, "name,"
>> > identifies
> a
>> > check mark next to it. if it does, hit alt key to dismiss the menu and
>> > leave
>> > alone. if not, hit enter on name, such that the list is displayed in
> name
>> > order, and not some other order.
>> >
>> > 4. type the letters, j f, quickly, to jump to the files starting with
>> > those
>> > letters.
>> > now, here's where things can get kinda messy.
>> > hopefully, although windows doesn't ship this way by default, you have
>> > altered the settings such that you will hear the file extensions, i.e.
> the
>> > 3
>> > character part after the period in every file name, which helps denote
> to
>> > windows, what file type each file is.
>> > now there are multiple files in here beginning withi the letters jfw,
> you
>> > want the one called jfw.ini.  now if you don't have extentions enabled,
>> > then
>> > you may be in the unpleasant situation of only being informed that all
>> > 3
>> > of
>> > the first files in alphabetical order, all speak simply as, jfw.
>> > However, they are not the same. in my list here, the first is jfw.enu,
> the
>> > second is jfw.exe, and the third, is the one you want, jfw.ini.
>> >
>> > 5. hit enter on jfw.ini,  and hopefully it will have notepad as the
>> > default
>> > word processor to handle ini files,
>> > and open it in that program. if it comes up with a box indicating it
>> > doesn't
>> > know how to handle these, then try choosing that you want it to open in
>> > notepad. instructions how to do this beyond the scope of this document.
>> >
>> > 6. if you've got the right file, you should see lines like the
> following:
>> > [Options]
>> > ; If FirewallCheck is set to 1, JAWS will attempt to check if a
>> > firewall
>> > ; application is running by prematurely triggering the firewall when
>> > ; JAWS starts.  This setting is off by default and is ignored when JAWS
>> > ; is set to run at Windows startup.
>> > FirewallCheck=0
>> >
>> >
>> > note that some lines begin with semi colons in here, they are lines
> which
>> > are comments, and don't get processed by windows as valid compile
>> > lines,
>> > just like in script manager.
>> > this is handy to know if you wanna have multiple lines, and switch them
> on
>> > or off from being processed by placing semi colons at their far left
> hand
>> > ends.
>> >
>> > also note that sections in here, are denoted by being surrounded with
>> > brackets. like
>> > [options] [
>> >
>> > [Synthesizers]
>> >
>> > etc.
>> >
>> >
>> > 7. scroll down until you find the section called
>> > [Synthesizers]
>> > you should see in here, lines like:
>> > Synth1Name=eloq
>> > Synth1LongName=Eloquence Software
>> > Synth1Driver=eloq
>> >
>> > 8. now, presuming you are just using default settings and eloquence as
>> > your
>> > main synth, and thus utilizing synth1 settings here,
>> > just above the lines starting with synth2, make a blank line by hitting
>> > home
>> > on that line then hitting enter, then up arrowing again such that your
>> > over
>> > the blank line, just below the line
>> > Synth1Driver=eloq.
>> >
>> > 9. now what we need to do here is paste in a line like the following,
> but
>> > with the name of the sound card you want to force jaws to use after the
>> > words,
>> >
>> > Synth1Port=
>> >
>> > but exactly, as displayed in sounds and audio devices in control
>> > pannel,
>> > in
>> > the, "audio" tab.
>> >
>> > .  given your message of what looks like three sound cards/audio
>> > devices
>> > your system currently has installed,, if you wanted jaws to use the
> sound
>> > max audio device for example, you might try the following line:
>> >
>> > Synth1Port=SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio
>> >
>> >
>> > now this is assuming, that this is the way this audio device appears in
>> > the
>> > above place on your system, as taken from what you've posted about it.
> but
>> > I
>> > can't guarantee this will be the case of course.
>> >
>> > then hit control+s to save, and, as I say, insuring you have sighted
> help
>> > about, in case this fails totally and you lose speech, quit and restart
>> > jaws. and see if it now comes out the sound max digital audio device.
>> > I hope this helps.
>> >
>> >
>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:13 AM
>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>> >
>> >
>> >> The hardware that you have to use with ScratchLive acts as the sound
> card
>> >> for the music and the regular sound card handles Jaws.
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Donald Marang" <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32 AM
>> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >I have not used this program or any other DJ software lately.  I am
> just
>> >> > curious.  If you regularly do this kind of work, wouldn't you want
>> >> > to
>> > use
>> >> > a
>> >> > second sound card anyway?  I thought most blind DJs typically
> directed
>> >> > JAWS
>> >> > to another sound card and output so it is not heard mixed with the
>> > music.
>> >> > I
>> >> > would think a USB external sound card, and directing JAWS to
> headphones
>> >> > would be the typical solution.  This should certainly eliminate the
> DJ
>> >> > program from distorting JAWS.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry if I am not understanding the purpose of this application or
> the
>> >> > situation.
>> >> >
>> >> > Don Marang
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:05 AM
>> >> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> GianniP, what sound card or cards have you got installed on your
>> >> >> puter?
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> Ann, what have you got.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "GianniP46" <giannip46@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:45 AM
>> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> I am using version 1.8.3 on a regular basis with no problems.  I
> have
>> >> >>> started messing around with 1.9 and I cannot confirm the problem
> with
>> >> >> fuzzy
>> >> >>> speech.
>> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>> From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:16 PM
>> >> >>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Scratch Live Install
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> > Woopse. sorry Ann, did not see this before I sent my last.
>> >> >>> > Ann I don't know this program at all and will await other's
>> >> >>> > comments
>> >> >>> > who
>> >> >>> > know it. but, when you say below that you, "use the jaws key,",
> do
>> > you
>> >> >>> > mean
>> >> >>> > you examine the screen with the jaws Cursor?  and are you saying
>> >> >>> > you
>> >> >>> > cannot
>> >> >>> > read any text on the screen with that in this scratch live
> software
>> >> >>> > program?
>> >> >>> > as far as the jaws sounding "off station," ... wow,
>> >> >>> > man that does seem very strange.  I wish I could actually hear
> what
>> >> >>> > your
>> >> >>> > talking about here.  we can't have attachments to the list posts
>> >> >>> > can
>> >> >>> > we
>> >> >>> > everet? such that ann could send an audio clip of a "normal,"
>> >> >>> > and
>> >> >>> > "fuzzyness," of eloquence sound?
>> >> >>> > I presume you are using the default eloquence speech synthesizer
>> >> >>> > are
>> >> >>> > you
>> >> >>> > Ann? for remember that jaws is just the screenReader and can be
>> >> >>> > made
>> >> >>> > to
>> >> >>> > pipe
>> >> >>> > it's output through a number of differing synthesizers.  Though
> to
>> > me
>> >> >>> > eloquence is still the best quality for the negligible
> performance
>> >> >> usage
>> >> >>> > it
>> >> >>> > seems to require.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > now I will tell you, that over the years, I have found something
>> > quite
>> >> >> odd
>> >> >>> > with eloquence and top end clarity on differing computer
>> >> >>> > systems.
>> >> >>> > Glen
>> >> >>> > from
>> >> >>> > FS even called me up about it one day after a post I made to
>> >> >>> > some
>> > list
>> >> >>> > about
>> >> >>> > it, and we talked about it for quite a while, seeking to get to
> the
>> >> >> bottom
>> >> >>> > of what might be going on.
>> >> >>> > Being an audio man/musician  myself, my claim was, that on my 98
>> >> >> machine,
>> >> >>> > fitted with an old creative labs sound blaster live platinum
> sound
>> >> >>> > card
>> >> >> I
>> >> >>> > think it is,
>> >> >>> > eloquence had a certain beautiful top end clarity, that it
>> >> >>> > simply
>> > did
>> >> >>> > absolutely not have, on my xp machine, under a sound max digital
>> > audio
>> >> >>> > sound
>> >> >>> > card.
>> >> >>> > And the other caveat was, that when window eyes was run on the
>> >> >>> > xp
>> > box,
>> >> >>> > through it's own rendering of the eloquence synthesizer, all the
>> > same
>> >> >> nice
>> >> >>> > top end was present, which as I say, absolutely wasn't present,
>> >> >>> > when
>> >> >>> > running
>> >> >>> > jaws through it's eloquence output implementation.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > What I think we established, might, have been going on in the
> end,
>> > was
>> >> >>> > that
>> >> >>> > the issue had something to do with the way the sound max
>> >> >>> > drivers,
>> >> >> handled
>> >> >>> > the default 11khz sampling rate output, that the jaws rendering
> of
>> > the
>> >> >>> > eloquence speech synthesizer, was presenting to it.
>> >> >>> > Glen concluded that he thought that my sound blaster sound card,
>> >> >>> > was
>> >> >>> > actually up sampling the eloquence output, to 22.5.khz, actually
>> >> >> seemingly
>> >> >>> > to allow for an increase, in the top end frequencies produced,
> but
>> > did
>> >> >> so
>> >> >>> > using such a nice algorithm, that it also filtered out all the
>> >> >>> > undesirable,
>> >> >>> > fuzzy sounding, digital artifacts, called aliusing, that
> naturally
>> >> >>> > tends
>> >> >>> > to
>> >> >>> > occur when this is done unless it's been very carefully filtered
> to
>> >> >> remove
>> >> >>> > those.
>> >> >>> > whereas my sound max digital audio sound card, was leaving the
>> >> >>> > eloquence
>> >> >>> > alone at the 11.025 khz sampling rate, and just allowing it to
>> >> >>> > be
>> >> >>> > output
>> >> >>> > at
>> >> >>> > that, without mmesing with it at all. hense the duller top end
> when
>> >> >>> > compared
>> >> >>> > to that produced by both window eyes rendering of eloquence,
> which
>> >> >>> > I
>> >> >> think
>> >> >>> > we determined might also have been up sampling the output to
> 22khz,
>> >> >>> > and
>> >> >>> > jaws
>> >> >>> > through eloquence on the sound blaster box.
>> >> >>> > Now I'm afraid I don't really have time over the next couple
> weeks,
>> > to
>> >> >> do
>> >> >>> > any more decent research about this,, would you say that the,
>> >> >> "fuzzyness,"
>> >> >>> > and, "off-station," sound  of jaws/eloquence your seeking to
>> > describe,
>> >> >> is
>> >> >>> > a
>> >> >>> > drop in clarity/top end frequencies? or would you say it sounds
>> >> >>> > more
>> >> >> like
>> >> >>> > it's got added top end, but with kinda fuzzy ugly digital
> artifacts
>> >> >> thrown
>> >> >>> > in on top.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I'll nearly bet it's the latter, and if so, I'd hazard a guess
> that
>> >> >>> > the
>> >> >>> > scratch live software may've put a driver in the chain, which is
>> >> >>> > forcing
>> >> >>> > everything that comes out of that sound card, to be up sampled
>> >> >>> > to
>> >> >> 22.khz,
>> >> >>> > not expecting that anyone these days is going to have sounds on
>> > their
>> >> >>> > puters
>> >> >>> > of such a low grade 11khz sampling rate, but doing so without
>> > seeking
>> >> >>> > to
>> >> >>> > properly filter the aliusing from the sound? ... maybe! it's
>> >> >>> > just
> a
>> >> >> guess.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>> > From: "Ann Medlar" <amedlar1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>> > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:45 AM
>> >> >>> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Scratch Live Install
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> Don't know why original message did not show up when I replied
> to
>> >> >> Jeff's
>> >> >>> > message.
>> >> >>> >>     Hi,
>> >> >>> >> When I press start key, p for programs enter on Serato enter on
>> >> >>> >> Scratch
>> >> >>> > Live
>> >> >>> >> it sounds like Jaws is off station.  I press insert+F4 to
>> >> >>> >> unload
>> > and
>> >> >>> > restart
>> >> >>> >> Jaws again but Jaws still sounds like an untuned radio station.
>> > Fuzz
>> >> >>> > sound
>> >> >>> >> in Jaws only goes away when I reboot.
>> >> >>> >> When I installed Scratch Live I went directly to site and
>> > downloaded
>> >> >> and
>> >> >>> >> saved
>> >> >>> >> version 1.9 to my desktop.   I then went to Serato folder which
>> >> >>> >> had
>> > a
>> >> >>> >> setup.exe, and a driver folder  which contained Vista, Vista64,
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> XP
>> >> >>> > were
>> >> >>> >> sub folders.  I went into XP, 57 sl, MP4, SL1, and SL3 were sub
>> >> >> folders.
>> >> >>> > I
>> >> >>> >> just used the setup.exe and installed using automatic rather
> than
>> >> >> custom.
>> >> >>> >> When I launch Scratch Live, alt key does not bring up menus.  I
>> >> >>> >> use
>> >> >> Jaws
>> >> >>> > key
>> >> >>> >> and nothing speaks.
>> >> >>> >> Do you know if I need to install differently?
>> >> >>> >> Any help is appreciated.
>> >> >>> >> Ann
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> __________
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>> >> >> http://jawsscripts.com
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>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > __________
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>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> __________
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>> >> >>
>> >> >> __________
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>> >> >
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>> >> >
>> >>
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>> >
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