[jawsscripts] Re: Jawsscripts / Configuration files for PCOM

boy, I wish I'd asked you david,
before I spent ages figuring this one out! hahahahaha.
<groan.>

thanks for confirmation though eh.
gratifying to know I came to the right place in the end.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David W Bundy" <sharktrainer13@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jawsscripts / Configuration files for PCOM


> That,s right.  For the best results in a terminal immulation environment,
you want to use a blinking underscore
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Geoff Chapman"<gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 11/19/07 9:34:33 PM
> To: "jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jawsscripts / Configuration files for PCOM
>
> Don, I reply on list because I'm keen to know what exactly the scripts you
> have, would facilitate?
> When I was configuring things for pizza hut this year using the IBM client
> express I think it was called, emulating an as400 system, I didn't end up
> using any specialized scripts for it, however to gain any joy that jaws
new
> where to read once frames were configured, i.e. where the cursor was at
any
> given time, such that routeJawsToPc worked reliably, as well as edit boxes
> reading etc, I had to set it's cursor type, to an Underline, and blinking
> type,
> I believe, if I remember rightly. i.e. not a block cursor. but this is
from
> memory? I would have to double check to be absolutely sure.
> other combinations yielded less than perfect results, but this seemed to
> enable jaws to reliably determine where the cursor was at any given time,
> and read without double reading etc, although FocusChangedEvent never ran
> whilst tabbing about inside.
> so everything had to be made to speak, through the use of frames set
around
> each tabStop, with the leftEdge of the frame, absolutely, and
unequivocally
> needing to be constantly set, 6 pixels to the left, of the first character
> position of any given TabStop field, that the routeJawsToPc function,
> brought the jaws cursor to.
> in other words, what I would do would be to tab to a field, route jaws to
> pc, press alt+shift+left arrow twice, to move the jawsCursor 6 pixels to
the
> left of the actual focus point moved to by the tab key, then hit
> control+shift+leftBracket to mark top left hand corner of the frame.
> Then, move your jaws cursor along to the end of the data input field,
often,
> though not necessarily always, marked with an actual tab character, then
> back one space to the left to be over the last actual input field
character,
> to mark the bottom right hand corner.
> note: that if you need to be very precise with your frames,
> when doing frames like this, focusing over the last input character, in
> jaws8 anyway, includes the width of that character in the frame itself.
i.e.
> the right edge of the frame width, when I did this, was set 12 pixels
> further to the right, than the actual x coordinate read out by the
> alt+delete key, which will thus include that last character in the frame.
>
> But that issue of the leftEdge of the frame needing to be set at least 6
> pixels to the left of the x coordinate of the initial beginning
> character/tabStop for each field, was a doozy for unreliability of this
> method, unless it was honored.
> i.e. I couldn't just set the leftEdge bang on the location of the Cursor,
> when doing a routeJawsToPc, after a tab press.
> So, after defining each corner of the frame,
> I would then finish defining the frame wizard, saying no to the "would you
> like to assign a key to this frame," request,
> and after being placed back in Frame viewer after this process, would hit
> alt+enter to go back into the frame definition dialog,
> controlTab to the events page, delete the automatically assigned,
OnKeyPress
> event, which for these onFocus type Frames you don't need,
> then I'd hit alt+A to assign a new Event, chooseOnFocus as my eventType,
> then Choosing SayString, as my action for that OnFocus event.
> , then I'd define a Label/prompt to be spoken for the field.
> Then after that, I'd stay in the frame Events page, hit alt+A to add
another
> frame Event, choose onFocus for the event type, but this time, choose,
> "SayFrame," as my event action, and usually the frame itself would come up
> as the default, for the frame contents to be spoken. So I'd just hit enter
> to flip through the rest of that wizard, then when back in the Events Tab
> Control of the frame Dialog, I'd then controlShiftTab back to the
> validations page, and insure for the two default validation criteria
defined
> there, that none contained any window title or class information, that
might
> be dynamic, and thus cause the frame to not fire if that information
altered
> under varying circumstances.
> tip: you can hit f2 to quickly alter this, for the two validation criteria
> of class/window title auto defined here, or of course, totally change
either
> of these, or define your own, as to in what circumstances the frame should
> be valid, if you need to very specificly define this on a screen per
screen
> basis.
> as it turned out for me, I was unable to utilize anything to specify this,
> so after I got a number of screens where the frame positions began to
> overLap one another, and need differing prompts/labels for each screen, I
> had to start getting really hairy, and flip frameSets in and out of memory
> with a special enhanced FrameSet manager utility, that I commissioned Jim
> snowbarger to write for me, which facilitated me being able to auto switch
> whole frameSets in and out of memory, as well as save/delete frames across
> FrameSets etc.
> But, ... yeah, it worked, but gets pretty hairy with the trigger frames
that
> do the frameSet Swapping based on appearnace of Text or whatever, so, ...
> yeah.
>
> Hope this helps you a bit mike.
>
> There's a whole bunch more I could say about this, if you need further
> advice, write me offList. I've just done an extensive project utilizing
both
> Frames, and extensive use of GetTextInRect functions, to get stuff to
speak
> good under an IBM client express terminal emulation, though it was my
first
> one so I can't claim humongus experience across a wide range of these
> terminal emulation packages.
> geoff c.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don Mauck" <don.mauck@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:00 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jawsscripts / Configuration files for PCOM
>
>
> Michael,
> I can send you some scripts that were originally written by a person that
> works for IBM and then I can also send you some additional things that I
> have added.  I don't however thing the list will let me send a zip file so
I
> need an email that I can send these to.
>
>
>
> Oracle
> Don Mauck | Accessibility Evangelist
> Cross Applications Unlimited
> 7700 Technology Way
> Denver CO 80237
> Phone (303) 334-4184
> Email don.mauck@xxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Paciello
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:50 AM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jawsscripts / Configuration files for PCOM
>
> Hi Don -
>
> Believe it or not, we need both!
>
> -Mike
>
> On Nov 19, 2007 11:23 AM, Don Mauck <don.mauck@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I believe I may have what you need.  Call or send me an email direct.
> > Is this for 5250 or 3270 emulation?
> >
> >
> >
> > Don Mauck | Accessibility Evangelist
> > Cross Applications Unlimited
> > 7700 Technology Way
> > Denver CO 80237
> > Phone (303) 334-4184
> > Email don.mauck@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >  ________________________________
> >  From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael
> > Paciello
> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:19 AM
> > To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Jawsscripts / Configuration files for PCOM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> > Is anyone aware of jawscripts or specialized configuration files for
> > IBM's PCOM terminal emulator?
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > --
> > Mike Paciello
> > web: www.paciellogroup.com
>
>
>
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