[jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
- From: "Andre Williams" <andre.williams.1965@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:34:56 -0800
Is there any reason why FS has never pushed the volume up and volume down
script as a feature of jaws? Its a clear necessity when listening to MP3
files such as music and you do not want the jaws volume to go along with the
increased master volume. I can not recall anyone before joining this list
and Don informing that this script exists. In fact, its odd that this scrip
exist but does not have any keystroke attached. I talked to FS about this
problem and they said this could not be done. Its because they don't really
offer much in terms of practical solutions that I sought out help from this
list.
Andre
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 7:11 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
clearly it's a bug then with the windos7 implementation of this. Best write
to fs about it and inform them I'd say.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hamid AITOUZNAG" <hamid.maier@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:21 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
> Hi everyone,
>
> In my Xp machine, the script works pretty well increasing and decreasing
> elequence as well, however, in my windows 7, i still couldn't get it to
> work. As andre stated, it does echo softer and louder but without effect.
>
>
>
>
> Hamid AITOUZNAG
> "We never value what we have until we lose it!".
>
> Skype: hamidgeni
>
> MSN: hamid.maier@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> On 06/11/2010 20:50, Andre Williams wrote:
>> May I ask why? If there is a valid technical explanation I'll stop
>> searching, but if its because you don't think so or you heard it
>> somewhere,
>> I'm sorry but this is not the level of credibility I'm looking for, and
>> I'm
>> thinking this might still be possible. (Smile).
>> Andre
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Don Marang"<donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To:<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:35 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
>>
>>
>> Thanks. That explains a lot!
>>
>> Don Marang
>>
>> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any
>> real
>> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am
>> working
>> on things that matter.
>> Dean Kamen
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Negoslav Sabev"<negi4a@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 1:52 PM
>> To:<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
>>
>>
>>> Be sure that you use sapi5 voice to make it work. Eloquence can not be
>>> controled this way.
>>>
>>> Negoslav
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andre Williams"<andre.williams.1965@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To:<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 8:32 AM
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank you Don, but the jaws keyboard manager suggestion doesn't seem to
>>>> work. I did exactly as you described and assigned control + F11 and
>>>> Control
>>>> + F12 to raise and lower the volume. The assigning of these hotkeys
>>>> went
>>>> just fine, but when I hit these hotkeys nothing happens. Is there
>>>> something
>>>> else I might be able to try? Jaws does state volume up and volume down,
>>>> it
>>>> just doesn't do it. Why do you think FS never bothered to create what
>>>> seems
>>>> like such a necessary hotkey? Is it not possible with Jaws? I'm
>>>> thinking
>>>> that if GW Micro could pull it off, FS should not have much problems
>>>> either?
>>>> (Shrug).
>>>> Andre
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Don Marang"<donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To:<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 9:51 PM
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Jaws and volume control
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are already JAWS Scripts for increasing and decreasing both the
>>>> master
>>>> and voice volume. They just do not have any keystroke normally set.
>>>> Go
>>>> into the Keyboard Manager, press Control + Shift + d to open the key
>>>> assignments for default. Look for the individual functions, like
>>>> IncreaseVoiceVolume(), press Control + a to add a new key assignment
>>>> and
>>>> follow the prompts.
>>>>
>>>> These scripts have been around since 5.1 or earlier. Now that Windows
>>>> 7
>>>> and
>>>> Vista can individually set volume levels for each application with the
>>>> volume mixer, I wanted JAWS to be able to adjust the volume level for
>>>> the
>>>> current application. I have been looking at this for a while. There
>>>> is
>>>> a
>>>> small command line program, nircmd.exe, that I can call from a script
>>>> to
>>>> perform the action. The difficulty I ran into was what you were
>>>> thinking.
>>>> The program does not physically open the volume mixer, but the exact
>>>> application name string in the volume mixer needs to be provided. Not
>>>> only
>>>> do I not know how to get this, but it is different between Vista and
>>>> Windows
>>>> 7. If anyone figures out how to do this, let me know. I think it
>>>> would
>>>> be
>>>> nice to lower the volume of any application, such as Internet Explorer
>>>> quickly!
>>>>
>>>> Don Marang
>>>>
>>>> There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any
>>>> real
>>>> substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I am
>>>> working
>>>> on things that matter.
>>>> Dean Kamen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Andre Williams"<andre.williams.1965@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:03 PM
>>>> To:<jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Jaws and volume control
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have just joined this list in an attempt to save my hearing.
>>>>> (laugh).
>>>>>
>>>>> I am curious if anyone has managed to script jaws so that within the
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> 7 master volume control, the jaws entry can be adjusted with hotkeys.
>>>>>
>>>>> As many may or may not know, Window eyes uses a different volume
>>>>> control
>>>>> for
>>>>> windows sounds and the screen reader. If they can do it then why can't
>>>>> jaws,
>>>>> right? I would like to find a way of scripting jaws to accomplish this
>>>>> same
>>>>> goal.
>>>>>
>>>>> To begin, does anyone know the exact name of the volume mixer entry
>>>>> for
>>>>> jaws
>>>>> output? I imagine I first need to know what it is I'm going to
>>>>> manipulate
>>>>> before I can script it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far I go to run and type sndvol and hit enter. The volume mixer
>>>>> pops
>>>>> up
>>>>> and I can tab to the separate audio streams.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I find a path to the jaws audio stream in an effort to create
>>>>> a
>>>>> script that will allow me to adjust the volume?
>>>>> If this has already been done, please please convey how I can do this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using jaws 12 on a Windows 7 home premium 64 bit computer
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Andre
>>>>>
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