[jawsscripts] Re: Jaws 13 OCR
- From: Chris Smart <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 15:53:35 -0400
wow, are you guys still sore about Jonathan moving from one
adaptive tech company to another?
I can't think of a more bizarre scenario than when he switched
employers, and all the blindness mailing lists went crazy. People
switch jobs and employers all the time!
At 03:47 PM 9/16/2011, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Agree. Most things these days are puffed up, and Mosen's went to the
>dark side a long time ago so he's nothing more than a spokesperson
>with a funny accent trying to win over people who don't keep their
>eyes open on lists. However, that does not make this OCR feature
>completely useless. I've seen people saying they've installed Windows
>8 using vmware independently using this new feature.
>
>Alex
>
>On 9/16/11, Doug Lee <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Wow... I can't address Jonathan Mosen's comments having failed to
> > notice them for myself, but I for one think this feature will prove
> > useful in some environments where it is impossible to access screen
> > text by more direct means and also not permitted to install
> > third-party software willy-nilly. This applies to a lot of
> corporate
> > settings I've seen in my 11 years of scripting JAWS in work
> settings.
> >
> > Printing and recognizing a screen from paper, by the way, is so
> much
> > slower than this, even if you have Matrix-speed agility (pun on
> movie
> > and printer is intended there), that I simply don't recognize that
> > approach as comparable in work settings such as I describe. If a
> > coworker asks you to read a 15-page PDF and it's all images,
> you could
> > indeed do that, even though again this approach should be much
> faster;
> > but if it's a question of reading and interacting with a graphic
> > screen containing text that JAWS normally can't see, printing and
> > scanning the screen will not let you find and actually click on the
> > Next button.
> >
> > I confess, I'm accustomed to seeing the naysayers soon after any
> > release of any software from a large-market-share company (that
> would
> > apply to JAWS, Microsoft, and even Apple now); but this is one
> feature
> > of JAWS that I actually thought would fly above all that.
> >
> > Disclaimer: I do not work for Freedom Scientific. I work for a
> > company that works with various screen reader vendors and many
> > government and private organizations to improve the ability of
> blind
> > employees to do their jobs in the workplace. I have written more
> > scripts for JAWS than for any other screen reader, but I have also
> > scripted for Window-Eyes on a number of occasions and have
> contributed
> > a small amount of code to NVDA (Skype related, that was).
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:23:54PM -0700, Andre Williams wrote:
> > Guys, this seems like another useless jaws feature. This OCR
> thing is almost
> > exactly what one can do with a screen capture utility built
> into Windows or
> > what you can download get for fee.
> >
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Take-a-screen-capture-print-your-screen
> >
> > Yeah, this screen capture process might be slightly faster with
> jaws 13, but
> > is this worth a hit on one's SMA? I say h no!
> >
> > If you listen to the FS podcast you will also come across
> something to the
> > effect of Jonathan saying that scriptors on this list were all
> excited about
> > this new feature. I don't recall a single post on this list
> commenting on
> > this feature. This makes Jonathan less than credible but I
> don't fall for
> > company BS about their own products anyways. Furthermore, I wil
> now accept
> > Jonathan's comments with a handful of salt. He's lots almost total
> > credibility with me with this comment at it is blatantly
> disingenuous. He
> > also claimed this feature to be a game changer in screen reader
> technology.
> >
> > A-W
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 8:00 AM
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Jaws 13 OCR
> >
> >
> > So, have any of you played with the OCR feature in Jaws 13 beta
> yet?
> >
> > I managed to register a program last night, whose initial
> > registration screen was formerly invisible to Jaws. Too bad that
> > once I registered the program, the rest of the application turned
> > out to be invisible as well. *LOL*
> >
> > So far, we can ocr and then read or mouse click on the results.
> > In what ways could this new information gleaned through OCR be tied
> > to other Jaws functions? I'm thinking it would be nice to be able
> > to put the Jaws cursor on part of the OCR results and transfer the
> > text into the graphics labeler, for example.
> >
> > Chris
> >
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