[jawsscripts] Re: Introduction and a question

The IE7 protected mode is off if UAC is disabled.  It is based on the User
Interface Privilege Isolation technology introduced in Vista to control such
things as user permission levels.

When Internet Explorer 7 is running in Protected Mode (which is the default
in all but the "Trusted" security zone) the process runs with low rights,
even if Internet Explorer is being run by an administrator. This means that
even if an attacker defeated all defense mechanisms and got control of the
Internet Explorer process and managed to run some arbitrary code, it would
be severely limited in what it could do. Nearly all of the file system and
registry would be off limits for writing, reducing the ability of an exploit
to modify the system or harm your files. The code wouldn't have enough
privileges to install software, put files in your Startup folder, hijack
browser settings, or do other nasty things.
If you download and use TweakUAC you will be able to run UAC in its quiet or silent mode. In such a mode, you keep all the positive effects of UAC, such as 
Internet Explorer operating in the protected mode, applications starting
without the administrative privileges by default, etc. The only thing that
gets changed is that you will no longer see the infamous "Windows needs your
permission to continue" messages whenever you attempt to make a change to
your Vista configuration, or when you run a program that needs
administrative rights.
If any one decides to download and install TweakUAC, the check mark in the license agreement screen is not labeled and so you will need to find the unlabeled graphic beside the "I agree" choice and simulate a left click on the graphic. In the following window JAWS might tell you that the selected choice is one of one, but if you use down arrow you can move to other choices. One of those choices is to run UAC in silent mode.
I think that keeping UAC's and protected mode security in place is a good idea, but you can get rid of the "Windows needs your permission" messages by running TweakUAC in silent mode. Any one interested can download the file at: 
http://www.tweak-uac.com/download/

Brian Lee
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmgon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Introduction and a question
I've re compiled scripts here with UAC on and no issues either. but haven't 
actually ran script manager.  FS will simply have to fix the problem if
there is one because turning off UAC is in my humble opinion not a good
idea.

Rick
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Strange, why would you have to turn it off?  I wrote and compiled some
scripts just yesterday with uac running, there was no prob, only, compile
complete.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Erichsen" <pianoman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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I personally do not have any problems with vista what so ever.
I have it running on 2 machines here and it runs just fine.
To use the script manager, just remember to turn the UAC (user account
control) off.
There is actually a way you can compile scripts without turning it off but
it is a little complex.



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[mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Panes
Sent: Saturday, 19 April 2008 7:10 PM
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Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Introduction and a question

Hi Jackie,

Thanks very much for this information. It is good to know that it is
possible to live with Vista where no other option is available.

Recently, I put the question out to the list asking if anyone has had any
good experience with Vista. There were several answers saying, "No.", and
none saying "Yes.". I have no actual experience with it myself.

Thanks again and happy hacking.

Regards,
Jim
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"Everything is easy when you know how."
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:40 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Introduction and a question


Jim & Greg:

1st, Jim--I wonder what issues you're having w/vista? I have xp but
recently needed to fix a vista machine. & once I figured out what was
up w/it, it wasn't at all bad. In fact, there are some features which
actually make it advantageous, such as that the sound card is
operational in safe mode, etc. So, just for the record, I think vista
is quite accessible, especially if u turn off the annoying user
control thinggie & if u understand what it's doing. Jaws has a good
tutorial on accessing vista, should any1 need that.

Greg, As for FS's info, I think the basics of scripting & the
tutorials are all on Inthane's site--I don't know of anything that fs
has on its site that isn't on the grab bag as well, but that doesn't
mean there isn't something. Look at both, get whatever u need. This
list is a good place to get started.

On 4/18/08, James Panes <jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Greg,

Welcome to the list.

The site that Jackie mentioned is good. There is also lots of info and
tutorials available from the FSDN, links available on the Freedom
Scientific
site.

Unfortunately, none of us have had much luck with Vista. XP Pro is the
operating system of choice. I gather that you have a new system and did
not
have the opportunity to compare notes with other blind programmers before
making your purchase.

We are all working on improving accessibility for Vista, but it is still
way
behind.

Happy hacking.


Regards,
Jim
jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx
jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx
"Everything is easy when you know how."

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From: "Greg" <gregw1@xxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 8:20 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Introduction and a question


Hello All,

My name is Greg Wocher and I have been blind for almost six years now.  I
am
using JFW 9.0 on a Windows Vista machine.  I have a couple of questions:

1.        Where can I get some good info on JAWS scripting?



2.        When you turn the typing interrupt off even hitting the enter
key
wont interrupt speech. How can I change this so when the typing interrupt 
is turned off the enter key will interrupt speech?



3.       3.  Would something like this have to be application specific or
could you create a script to modify the default typing interrupt?

Thanks for any help,

Greg Wocher


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