hi lenny. great! I've done a fair bit with frames, so let me know if I can be of help more. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <merlin739@xxxxxxxxx> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:19 AM Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Framing Easy CD-DA Extractor > Hi Jeff, > > Thanks for your suggestions. I have not taken the time again to try > working with frames on this program, but I should get to it later > this week. I do like the idea of starting from scratch and create a > new frame. I don't know why I got it to work with Easy CD-DA > extractor in version 10, but I will try again. I'll let you know how > I make out. > > Lennie > > At 07:06 PM 3/2/2008, you wrote: > >lenny, though I can't help directly with a script based approach to solving > >this, in troubleshooting your frame issues, have you identified that the > >frame you've set up, actually correctly surrounds the area where the song > >titles are being written, by attaching it to a keystorke, and continually > >pressing this keystroke manually first? to see if at least this works? > > > >when trouble shooting frames, which I've done a fair bit of, it's important > >to first absolutely assure that the info is, actually contained in the frame > >you've made, and that it doesn't shift, depending on various factors, one of > >which might be lenth of title etc. > > > >another thing to be really aware of when creating a frame to do things, is > >what is written in both it's class and window title match criteria, found in > >controlTab number 2 of the frames properties configuration dialog. > >I'd suggest making a bran new frame, if you haven't already, rather than > >modifying your existing one, and, after you've made it, check to see what is > >written in the match criteria, especially for the window title of the app. > >e.g. only text which is constantly always in the application window > >titleBar, should be included in this window title match criteria, else of > >course the frame will not work. when the frame is created, a snapshot of the > >window title is taken, and shoved in here, but, for example, if there's some > >percentage completed info in there, which of course wil vary all the time, > >this information must be eliminated from the window title criteria, so that > >only what is constant, will remain as part of the match criteria. > >this isn't necessarily always easy to determine, but just insure the bare > >minimum of information you feel is necessary to keep it from speaking in > >other circumstances, > >REMAINS IN THIS VALIDATION CRITERIA. > >HIT F2 TO EDIT THESE BY THE WAY. > >only then will the frame ever fire, either with keystroke, or with the > >feature to speak all information written to the frame. > > > >The class information must also be right as well. though this is usually not > >a problem if you make the frame for the version your working in, but might > >certainly break it from working if you try and utilize a frame across > >versions, where the window class of the area displaying the information you > >want your frame to read, could very well have altered, and most probably > >has. > > > >tip: you can also temporarily disable either of these criteria, or add > >different criteria to your frame triggering, by hitting spaceBar whilst over > >each one, to toggle them off/on, as valid matching criteria. > >THIS MIGHT HELP YOU TROUBLE SHOOT THE FRAME, I.E. DISABLE ONE OR OTHER OR > >BOTH OF THESE, AND SEE IF YOUR FRAME WORKS WITH A KEYSTORKE. IF IT DOES, AND > >STOPS WHEN YOU ENABLE ONE OR OTHER OR BOTH OF THEM AGAIN, THEN YOU KNOW > >WHAT'S CAUSING IT TO BREAK. > > > >SE BOTH al Message ----- > >From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <merlin739@xxxxxxxxx> > >To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:53 AM > >Subject: [jawsscripts] Framing Easy CD-DA Extractor > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > I recently installed the latest version of Easy CD-DA Extractor > > > version 11.1. When I used to run version 10.5 to rip a CD, I had to > > > create a frame to have Jaws to speak the title of each song being copied. > > > > > > However, The same frame in the old version does not work with version > > > 11.1. I tried modifying the frame, but after numerous changes, > > > nothing is working like it did in the older version of Easy CD-DA > >Extractor. > > > > > > Is there anyone out there using the latest version of this program > > > and was able to figure out how to get Jaws to speak the titles while > > > the titles are being copied? Perhaps, writing a script would be a > > > better way? I am a novice at writing scripts, but with any help or > > > suggestions from the list, I may be able to write one? I know that > > > Jim Grimsby has written some script for this program and it is > > > running in Jaws 9 without any problems, but his script does not > > > satisfy the speaking of copying titles. > > > > > > Many thanks for any suggestions and help. > > > > > > Frustrated Lennie > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > View the list's information and change your settings at > > > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > >__________ > >View the list's information and change your settings at > >//www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts > > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/jawsscripts