[jawsscripts] Re: Framing Easy CD-DA Extractor

  • From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:40:09 +1100

hi lenny.
great! I've done a fair bit with frames, so let me know if I can be of help
more.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <merlin739@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:19 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Framing Easy CD-DA Extractor


> Hi Jeff,
>
> Thanks for your suggestions. I have not taken the time again to try
> working with frames on this program, but I should get to it later
> this week. I do like the idea of starting from scratch and create a
> new frame. I don't know why I got it to work with Easy CD-DA
> extractor in version 10, but I will try again. I'll let you know how
> I make out.
>
> Lennie
>
> At 07:06 PM 3/2/2008, you wrote:
> >lenny, though I can't help directly with a script based approach to
solving
> >this, in troubleshooting your frame issues, have you identified that the
> >frame you've set up, actually correctly surrounds the area where the song
> >titles are being written, by attaching it to a keystorke, and continually
> >pressing this keystroke manually first? to see if at least this works?
> >
> >when trouble shooting frames, which I've done a fair bit of, it's
important
> >to first absolutely assure that the info is, actually contained in the
frame
> >you've made, and that it doesn't shift, depending on various factors, one
of
> >which might be lenth of title etc.
> >
> >another thing to be really aware of when creating a frame to do things,
is
> >what is written in both it's class and window title match criteria, found
in
> >controlTab number 2 of the frames properties configuration dialog.
> >I'd suggest making a bran new frame,  if you haven't already, rather than
> >modifying your existing one, and, after you've made it, check to see what
is
> >written in the match criteria, especially for the window title of the
app.
> >e.g. only text which is constantly always in the application window
> >titleBar, should be included in this window title match criteria, else of
> >course the frame will not work. when the frame is created, a snapshot of
the
> >window title is taken, and shoved in here, but, for example, if there's
some
> >percentage completed info in there, which of course wil vary all the
time,
> >this information must be eliminated from the window title criteria, so
that
> >only what is constant, will remain as part of the match criteria.
> >this isn't necessarily always easy to determine, but just insure the bare
> >minimum of information you feel is necessary to keep it from speaking in
> >other circumstances,
> >REMAINS IN THIS VALIDATION CRITERIA.
> >HIT F2 TO EDIT THESE BY THE WAY.
> >only then will the frame ever fire, either with keystroke, or with the
> >feature to speak all information written to the frame.
> >
> >The class information must also be right as well. though this is usually
not
> >a problem if you make the frame for the version your working in, but
might
> >certainly break it from working if you try and utilize a frame across
> >versions, where the window class of the area displaying the information
you
> >want your frame to read, could very well have altered, and most probably
> >has.
> >
> >tip: you can also temporarily disable either of these criteria, or add
> >different criteria to your frame triggering, by hitting spaceBar whilst
over
> >each one, to toggle them off/on, as valid matching criteria.
> >THIS MIGHT HELP YOU TROUBLE SHOOT THE FRAME, I.E. DISABLE ONE OR OTHER OR
> >BOTH OF THESE, AND SEE IF YOUR FRAME WORKS WITH A KEYSTORKE. IF IT DOES,
AND
> >STOPS WHEN YOU ENABLE ONE OR OTHER OR BOTH OF THEM AGAIN, THEN YOU KNOW
> >WHAT'S CAUSING IT TO BREAK.
> >
> >SE BOTH al Message -----
> >From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <merlin739@xxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:53 AM
> >Subject: [jawsscripts] Framing Easy CD-DA Extractor
> >
> >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > > I recently installed the latest version of Easy CD-DA Extractor
> > > version 11.1. When I used to run version 10.5 to rip a CD, I had to
> > > create a frame to have Jaws to speak the title of each song being
copied.
> > >
> > > However, The same frame in the old version does not work with version
> > > 11.1. I tried modifying the frame, but after numerous changes,
> > > nothing is working like it did in the older version of Easy CD-DA
> >Extractor.
> > >
> > > Is there anyone out there using the latest version of this program
> > > and was able to figure out how to get Jaws to speak the titles while
> > > the titles are being copied? Perhaps, writing a script would be a
> > > better way? I am a novice at writing scripts, but with any help or
> > > suggestions from the list, I may be able to write one? I know that
> > > Jim Grimsby has written some script for this program and it is
> > > running in Jaws 9 without any problems, but his script does not
> > > satisfy the speaking of copying titles.
> > >
> > > Many thanks for any suggestions and help.
> > >
> > > Frustrated Lennie
> > >
> > >
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