[jawsscripts] Re: Easier way of writing scripts

  • From: "Andre Williams" <andre.williams.1965@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 12:09:08 -0800

HI Christopher and Travis,

Yes, I totally forgot about this hot clicker tool. I'll definitely look into 
it. (Smile). Off the top of your head, do you know if it will work with jaws 
13?

I'm not afraid of, or trying to avoid, learning a new tool, but I am 
definitely looking for a balance between my basic needs and investing tons 
of time in learning a scripting language. What I want to do seems very, very 
simple. "jaws, click on this tab, click on this icon, go back to the first 
tab." All these things seem very hotkey accessible and are consistently 
placed items on the same screen. I currently use the jaws cursor to manually 
navigate to various items to click on, which is why I'm looking for a faster 
way of clicking on these items using hotkeys. I'm to doing complex things 
like looking for colors, an hourglass, a funny character that runs across 
the screen, none of that stuff.

I think maybe asking specific questions might be a better path for me to 
take since right now I'm essentially asking for someone to show me the best 
way of finding a needle in a haystack. (smile).

A-W

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 11:31 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Easier way of writing scripts


I wonder if Hot Spot Clicker from http://hotspotclicker.org/ will help
with Andre's situation. I'm not sure, since I haven't used it myself,
but it looks like it's purpose is to make clicking on different areas of
the screen easier and without having to resort to scripting.

On 16/11/11 13:20, Doug Lee wrote:
> Your frustration is understandable, but the basic problem is that
> application developers use many different methods of displaying the
> various parts of their applications, and each method can have
> different accessibility characteristics.  In short, each type of
> control in an application can require its own accessibility solution.
> Freedom Scientific writes solutions to what it considers the most
> common control types, but they simply can't predict or manage all
> possible situations that happen out there. Since JAWS is scriptable,
> others can help out by coding for more situations; but still, more
> accessibility issues exist than there are capable hands to address
> them.
>
> So in summary, the fact that JAWS can't natively handle all the
> applications you may use is as lamentable as it is inevitable.
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:09:41AM -0800, Andre Williams wrote:
> Yes, I think this is the problem with all this scripting business. Look at
> the amount of stuff you listed which one has to learn to get started. If
> this is your work then this is something that has to be learned, but if 
> you
> are coming at this from the perspective of the regular user needing simple
> script features not already existing in jaws, then one must now take hours
> and hours of personal time to learn this stuff as well as paying for
> tutorials and stuff. I just want to make jaws quickly click on a tab on my
> screen, but it appears I have to learn tons of scripting first. I am not
> directing my comments at you Jacky, I'm only conveying my frustration with
> what seems like a process that should not be this difficult. I already 
> paid
> lots for jaws so I don't plan on continuing to sink more money into it.
>
> Just so I have a better perspective of the investment of time, what will 
> go
> into writing a script that will make jaws click on a specific tab with a
> press of a hotkey? I've already studied the layout of the screen a bit and
> found that the tabs don't move, nor do the other items I want to access 
> with
> hotkeys. Can this type of script be written easily, or do I have to learn
> all the things Jacky suggested?
>
> A-W
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:49 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Easier way of writing scripts
>
>
> Andre, there are many ways, depending on the app. Moving to a window
> handle or control ID, doing a findstring(), Looking for a particular
> window class & control ID combination, going thru the window or object
> hierarchy--those are just a few for starters. I can't really be more
> definitive because, as I said, it really depends on the application &
> how it's structured.
>
> I'd recommend u study the basics of scripting manual included in the
> Jaws help topics, as well as some of the jaws scripts which are
> located in the settings/enu directory of your jaws folder. My
> scripting 101 materials are also available for purchase at:
> www.screenreaderscripting.com
> if u feel the other materials aren't sufficient to meet your needs.
>
> On 11/16/11, Andre Williams <andre.williams.1965@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> HI all,
>>
>> Does anyone know of a more elegant manner of writing a script than
>> specifying every command? I'm looking to refine the accessibility of
>> WordWeb
>> a bit more and would like to not have to use script text such as
>> page up
>> page up
>> home
>> next word
>> next word
>> say word
>>
>> Is it possible to somehow take the jaws cursor to a specific icon or 
>> point
>> on the screen then hit a hotkey to tell Jaws that this is the object I
>> want
>> to use in my script?
>>
>> For example, WordWeb has several tabs. One of these tabs is used to read
>> the
>> Wikipedia article for the word one is wanting to define. I would like to
>> use
>> the jaws scripting functions or keyboard commands to write a script that
>> makes jaws jump directly to this desired Wikipedia tab object without all
>> the PageUp (), Home (), NextWord () commands.
>>
>> If this is possible, please help a brotha out and let me know how this 
>> can
>> be done.
>>
>> A-W
>>
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