[jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit

Hi Jamal,
I'm coming in late on this, but did you try adding all of the dll names to 
ConfigNames.ini for your script set?

Thanks,
Dennis Brown

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Bauer" <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit


> The script info unknown uses is retrieved from a JKM file. If you
> write a script, assign it a keystroke, compile, delete the script from
> the source and recompile while leaving the JKM entry intact, the name
> will be passed to unknown.
>
> As far as your actual questions go, I have no idea and wish I did. Is
> WXCore some sort of wrapper to mctwit.exe? If, say, mctwit was doing
> the grunt work and WXCore was just the GUI, that might explain some of
> the confusion.
>
> Perhaps JAWS only views an *application* for active configuration
> purposes as either executables or DLLs?
>
> Pure conjecture, though...
> Original message
> from: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
> date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:17:27 -0400 (EDT)
>
>>Hi Jim,
>>That helps, though I'm not there yet.  If JAWS knows what script
>>the user attempted to execute, then wouldn't it get that info from a .jss
>>or .jkm file?  If so, why can't it execute the script that it knows the
>>name of, obtained from a particular file?  Why does the AutoStart event
>>work in the associated .jss but not other scripts within the same file?
>>Even with the technique that now works (Brian's code that uses the
>>technique you described), I notice that application settings are unchecked
>>for both wx._core_ and McTwit settings?  If they are unchecked, why are
>>they active?
>>
>>I realize you may not know all the answers to these questions, but I'm
>>asking in case you or others can help explain this mysterious situation.
>> I sure wish these script issues were better documented for developers.
>>
>>Jamal
>>
>>On
>>Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jim Bauer wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:14:56 -0500
>>> From: Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
>>> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>>>
>>> When JAWS can't find a script in either the JSB of the currently
>>> active configuration or any JSBs linked to the active binary via Use
>>> statements, the offending script's name is passed to the unknown
>>> function. In default.jss, this function is written to speak the
>>> infamous, "unknown call to script/function" <func/scriptName> message.
>>>
>>> Here, we're creating an application-specific override that looks up
>>> the JKM entry for the given script name and types the keystroke it
>>> finds.
>>>
>>> If you try creating scripts in WXCore and doling out keystrokes,
>>> nothing will happen when those keys are pressed in Mctwit. And if you
>>> switch to the Mctwit configuration and merrily script hotkey after
>>> hotkey in Mctwit.jss without the aforementioned override, JAWS will
>>> pass any script called to unknown.
>>>
>>> Original message
>>> from: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>>> date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:17:22 -0400 (EDT)
>>>
>>> >Jim,
>>> >I have not been able to get your technique to work, but since Brian 
>>> >did,
>>> >I must not be grasping it fully.  Can you explain conceptually what 
>>> >this
>>> >technique is doing?
>>> >
>>> >Jamal
>>> >On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jim Bauer wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:28:40 -0500
>>> >> From: Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
>>> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>>> >>
>>> >> This goes in wx._core_:
>>> >>
>>> >> function Unknown(string TheName)
>>> >> typeKey(iniReadString("Common Keys", TheName,
>>> >> getCurrentScriptKeyName(), 
>>> >> GetJawsSettingsDirectory()+"\\mctwit.jkm"))
>>> >> endFunction
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Then, simply switchToConfiguration("mctwit" in WXCore's 
>>> >> autoStartEvent
>>> >> function. Put your scripts in mctwit.jss.
>>> >> Hope that cleared things up at least a little.
>>> >> Original message
>>> >> from: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>>> >> date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:51:11 -0400 (EDT)
>>> >>
>>> >> >Hi Jim,
>>> >> >Can you post sample code?  I tried SwitchToConfiguration in the
>>> >> >AutoStart event, but it did not work.  I also tried 
>>> >> >SwitchToScriptFile.
>>> >> >I didn't understand the references to unknown function or the ini 
>>> >> >file
>>> >> >in your message.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Jamal
>>> >> >On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jim Bauer wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:12:24 -0500
>>> >> >> From: Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
>>> >> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> You can make Unknown work for you here:
>>> >> >> switch to the mctwit configuration in the autoStartEvent of
>>> >> >> wx._core_.jss. Also include therein an unknown function that looks 
>>> >> >> in
>>> >> >> mctwit.jkm (via iniReadString) for the keystroke(s) it has been
>>> >> >> passed, then types the findings.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> HTH
>>> >> >>  Original message
>>> >> >> from: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>>> >> >> date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:19:54 -0400 (EDT)
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >I have tried that as well, without success.  Good suggestion 
>>> >> >> >though.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Jamal
>>> >> >> >On Mon, 15 Jun 2009,
>>> >> >> >Bryan Garaventa wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:11:18 -0700
>>> >> >> >> From: Bryan Garaventa <bgaraventa11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> You've likely already tried this, but does the old method for 
>>> >> >> >> passing keys
>>> >> >> >> through work? For instance
>>> >> >> >> {alt+t}
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> >> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> >> To: <JAWSScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:15 AM
>>> >> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Difficulty scripting McTwit
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> > As you may know, I develop a Twitter client called McTwit, 
>>> >> >> >> > whose installer
>>> >> >> >> > is available at
>>> >> >> >> > http://EmpowermentZone.com/mtsetup.exe
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Although I try to make the application as keyboard and screen
>>> >> >> >> > reader-friendly as possible, sometimes there are ways that it 
>>> >> >> >> > may be
>>> >> >> >> > enhanced in ways that are not presently practical through my 
>>> >> >> >> > coding alone.
>>> >> >> >> > I wish to promote collaboration in this and other open source 
>>> >> >> >> > projects, so
>>> >> >> >> > will work with anyone wanting to make a contribution that 
>>> >> >> >> > offers
>>> >> >> >> > additional features.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > I'm writing now in the hope that someone on this list may be 
>>> >> >> >> > able to
>>> >> >> >> > resolve why JAWS does not recognize scripted keys for McTwit. 
>>> >> >> >> > Brian
>>> >> >> >> > Hartgen and others on Twitter have suggested alternative 
>>> >> >> >> > hotkeys for
>>> >> >> >> > McTwit that work like an email interface.  At present, I am 
>>> >> >> >> > implementing
>>> >> >> >> > hotkeys only by means of the Windows dialog engine, which 
>>> >> >> >> > automatically
>>> >> >> >> > provides hotkeys of an Alt+Letter nature when the & character 
>>> >> >> >> > is used in
>>> >> >> >> > the label of a button.  With some email-like alternatives, 
>>> >> >> >> > one could also
>>> >> >> >> > do, say, Control+N for a new tweet (rather than Alt+T), 
>>> >> >> >> > Control+R for a
>>> >> >> >> > direct reply, and Control+Shift+R for a public reply (like 
>>> >> >> >> > "replying to
>>> >> >> >> > all").
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > To our surprise, Brian Hartgen and I have not been able to 
>>> >> >> >> > implement this
>>> >> >> >> > with normal JAWS scripting techniques, e.g.,
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Script NewTweet()
>>> >> >> >> > TypeKey("Alt+T")
>>> >> >> >> > EndScript
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > where the .jkm file contains
>>> >> >> >> > Control+N=NewTweet
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > This is why Brian has been trying to use the key pressed 
>>> >> >> >> > event, with
>>> >> >> >> > unsatisfactory results so far.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > I asked Jeff Bishop if he could implement similar 
>>> >> >> >> > functionality with
>>> >> >> >> > Window-Eyes scripting, and he has done so in a script package 
>>> >> >> >> > available at
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > http://www.gwmicro.com/Script_Central/Scripts/Script_Details/?scriptid=1244
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Can anyone help us get this working with JAWS?  Although the 
>>> >> >> >> > main
>>> >> >> >> > executable is McTwit.exe, Insert+Q reports that a GUI-related 
>>> >> >> >> > DLL is
>>> >> >> >> > active when McTwit is the active window.  Still, JAWS should 
>>> >> >> >> > be able to
>>> >> >> >> > script such an application, as it does for others with DLLs 
>>> >> >> >> > that assist
>>> >> >> >> > the primary executable.  I don't know if this might be a 
>>> >> >> >> > problem, but the
>>> >> >> >> > DLL has a Python related suffix, rather than the traditional 
>>> >> >> >> > .dll.  The
>>> >> >> >> > AutoStart event does trigger whenever McTwit is the active 
>>> >> >> >> > window, but
>>> >> >> >> > scripts are not recognized.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Suggestions, anyone?
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Jamal
>>> >> >> >> >
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