[jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit

Yes, the wx file is a DLL (with a different extension) related to the
wxWidgets GUI library -- a popular, cross-platform C++ library with
wrappers for many programming languages, including Python
http://wxPython.org

Since the script is defined in the .jss with the same root name as the
.jkm, it is strange that JAWS thinks the script is unknown.  Oh well --
thanks for your help.

Jamal
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Jim Bauer wrote:

> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:36:14 -0500
> From: Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
>
> The script info unknown uses is retrieved from a JKM file. If you
> write a script, assign it a keystroke, compile, delete the script from
> the source and recompile while leaving the JKM entry intact, the name
> will be passed to unknown.
>
> As far as your actual questions go, I have no idea and wish I did. Is
> WXCore some sort of wrapper to mctwit.exe? If, say, mctwit was doing
> the grunt work and WXCore was just the GUI, that might explain some of
> the confusion.
>
> Perhaps JAWS only views an *application* for active configuration
> purposes as either executables or DLLs?
>
> Pure conjecture, though...
> Original message
> from: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
> date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:17:27 -0400 (EDT)
>
> >Hi Jim,
> >That helps, though I'm not there yet.  If JAWS knows what script
> >the user attempted to execute, then wouldn't it get that info from a .jss
> >or .jkm file?  If so, why can't it execute the script that it knows the
> >name of, obtained from a particular file?  Why does the AutoStart event
> >work in the associated .jss but not other scripts within the same file?
> >Even with the technique that now works (Brian's code that uses the
> >technique you described), I notice that application settings are unchecked
> >for both wx._core_ and McTwit settings?  If they are unchecked, why are
> >they active?
> >
> >I realize you may not know all the answers to these questions, but I'm
> >asking in case you or others can help explain this mysterious situation.
> > I sure wish these script issues were better documented for developers.
> >
> >Jamal
> >
> >On
> >Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jim Bauer wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:14:56 -0500
> >> From: Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
> >>
> >> When JAWS can't find a script in either the JSB of the currently
> >> active configuration or any JSBs linked to the active binary via Use
> >> statements, the offending script's name is passed to the unknown
> >> function. In default.jss, this function is written to speak the
> >> infamous, "unknown call to script/function" <func/scriptName> message.
> >>
> >> Here, we're creating an application-specific override that looks up
> >> the JKM entry for the given script name and types the keystroke it
> >> finds.
> >>
> >> If you try creating scripts in WXCore and doling out keystrokes,
> >> nothing will happen when those keys are pressed in Mctwit. And if you
> >> switch to the Mctwit configuration and merrily script hotkey after
> >> hotkey in Mctwit.jss without the aforementioned override, JAWS will
> >> pass any script called to unknown.
> >>
> >> Original message
> >> from: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
> >> date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:17:22 -0400 (EDT)
> >>
> >> >Jim,
> >> >I have not been able to get your technique to work, but since Brian did,
> >> >I must not be grasping it fully.  Can you explain conceptually what this
> >> >technique is doing?
> >> >
> >> >Jamal
> >> >On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jim Bauer wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:28:40 -0500
> >> >> From: Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
> >> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
> >> >>
> >> >> This goes in wx._core_:
> >> >>
> >> >> function Unknown(string TheName)
> >> >> typeKey(iniReadString("Common Keys", TheName,
> >> >> getCurrentScriptKeyName(), GetJawsSettingsDirectory()+"\\mctwit.jkm"))
> >> >> endFunction
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Then, simply switchToConfiguration("mctwit" in WXCore's autoStartEvent
> >> >> function. Put your scripts in mctwit.jss.
> >> >> Hope that cleared things up at least a little.
> >> >> Original message
> >> >> from: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
> >> >> date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:51:11 -0400 (EDT)
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hi Jim,
> >> >> >Can you post sample code?  I tried SwitchToConfiguration in the
> >> >> >AutoStart event, but it did not work.  I also tried SwitchToScriptFile.
> >> >> >I didn't understand the references to unknown function or the ini file
> >> >> >in your message.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Jamal
> >> >> >On Mon, 15 Jun 2009, Jim Bauer wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:12:24 -0500
> >> >> >> From: Jim Bauer <holdsworthfan@xxxxxx>
> >> >> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You can make Unknown work for you here:
> >> >> >> switch to the mctwit configuration in the autoStartEvent of
> >> >> >> wx._core_.jss. Also include therein an unknown function that looks in
> >> >> >> mctwit.jkm (via iniReadString) for the keystroke(s) it has been
> >> >> >> passed, then types the findings.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> HTH
> >> >> >>  Original message
> >> >> >> from: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
> >> >> >> date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:19:54 -0400 (EDT)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I have tried that as well, without success.  Good suggestion though.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Jamal
> >> >> >> >On Mon, 15 Jun 2009,
> >> >> >> >Bryan Garaventa wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:11:18 -0700
> >> >> >> >> From: Bryan Garaventa <bgaraventa11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Difficulty scripting McTwit
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You've likely already tried this, but does the old method for 
> >> >> >> >> passing keys
> >> >> >> >> through work? For instance
> >> >> >> >> {alt+t}
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >> >> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> To: <JAWSScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:15 AM
> >> >> >> >> Subject: [jawsscripts] Difficulty scripting McTwit
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > As you may know, I develop a Twitter client called McTwit, 
> >> >> >> >> > whose installer
> >> >> >> >> > is available at
> >> >> >> >> > http://EmpowermentZone.com/mtsetup.exe
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Although I try to make the application as keyboard and screen
> >> >> >> >> > reader-friendly as possible, sometimes there are ways that it 
> >> >> >> >> > may be
> >> >> >> >> > enhanced in ways that are not presently practical through my 
> >> >> >> >> > coding alone.
> >> >> >> >> > I wish to promote collaboration in this and other open source 
> >> >> >> >> > projects, so
> >> >> >> >> > will work with anyone wanting to make a contribution that offers
> >> >> >> >> > additional features.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I'm writing now in the hope that someone on this list may be 
> >> >> >> >> > able to
> >> >> >> >> > resolve why JAWS does not recognize scripted keys for McTwit.  
> >> >> >> >> > Brian
> >> >> >> >> > Hartgen and others on Twitter have suggested alternative 
> >> >> >> >> > hotkeys for
> >> >> >> >> > McTwit that work like an email interface.  At present, I am 
> >> >> >> >> > implementing
> >> >> >> >> > hotkeys only by means of the Windows dialog engine, which 
> >> >> >> >> > automatically
> >> >> >> >> > provides hotkeys of an Alt+Letter nature when the & character 
> >> >> >> >> > is used in
> >> >> >> >> > the label of a button.  With some email-like alternatives, one 
> >> >> >> >> > could also
> >> >> >> >> > do, say, Control+N for a new tweet (rather than Alt+T), 
> >> >> >> >> > Control+R for a
> >> >> >> >> > direct reply, and Control+Shift+R for a public reply (like 
> >> >> >> >> > "replying to
> >> >> >> >> > all").
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > To our surprise, Brian Hartgen and I have not been able to 
> >> >> >> >> > implement this
> >> >> >> >> > with normal JAWS scripting techniques, e.g.,
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Script NewTweet()
> >> >> >> >> > TypeKey("Alt+T")
> >> >> >> >> > EndScript
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > where the .jkm file contains
> >> >> >> >> > Control+N=NewTweet
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > This is why Brian has been trying to use the key pressed event, 
> >> >> >> >> > with
> >> >> >> >> > unsatisfactory results so far.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > I asked Jeff Bishop if he could implement similar functionality 
> >> >> >> >> > with
> >> >> >> >> > Window-Eyes scripting, and he has done so in a script package 
> >> >> >> >> > available at
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > http://www.gwmicro.com/Script_Central/Scripts/Script_Details/?scriptid=1244
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Can anyone help us get this working with JAWS?  Although the 
> >> >> >> >> > main
> >> >> >> >> > executable is McTwit.exe, Insert+Q reports that a GUI-related 
> >> >> >> >> > DLL is
> >> >> >> >> > active when McTwit is the active window.  Still, JAWS should be 
> >> >> >> >> > able to
> >> >> >> >> > script such an application, as it does for others with DLLs 
> >> >> >> >> > that assist
> >> >> >> >> > the primary executable.  I don't know if this might be a 
> >> >> >> >> > problem, but the
> >> >> >> >> > DLL has a Python related suffix, rather than the traditional 
> >> >> >> >> > .dll.  The
> >> >> >> >> > AutoStart event does trigger whenever McTwit is the active 
> >> >> >> >> > window, but
> >> >> >> >> > scripts are not recognized.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Suggestions, anyone?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Jamal
> >> >> >> >> >
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