[jawsscripts] Re: Are there jaws scripts for spy ware blaster?
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:48:37 +1000
ok thanks heaps for those words Everet.
guess we'll see what response if any, david makes to what I wrote.
Thanks again.
Geoff c.
----- Original Message -----
From: "E.J. Zufelt" <lists@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:40 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Are there jaws scripts for spy ware blaster?
> Good morning Geoff,
>
> Thanks for writing.
>
> I am still the list moderator, and want to say up front thanks for all
> of the answers that you provide.
>
> To be quite honest I haven't been monitoring this particular thread,
> as I am in the process of moving. I found your last message to be
> excellent, if there is further discussion I will jump in and try to
> moderate.
>
> Thanks again,
> Everett
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> On 3-May-09, at 3:04 AM, Geoff Chapman wrote:
>
> > Wow. ok, thanks very much
> > Chris and Dorris for setting us straight as to this.
> > I must confess That outcome never even occurred to me to contemplate!
> >
> > So David, it appears from the lack of responses you've gotten to
> > date on
> > this,
> > that there may be no other scripts availabel for this program as yet.
> >
> > How important is it do you believe, for you to have access to this
> > particular program?
> > Have you tried making extensive use of the jaws Cursor to drive the
> > program
> > and click on things which make it useable?
> >
> > As you probably know, scripting an application to be really decently
> > vip
> > friendly, is no easy or small task, and I can't myself see how it
> > will be
> > possible if you've never yet been a scripter before, to start off
> > expecting
> > that you'll be able to learn how to get an entire aplication's
> > interface, to
> > the stage that you'll be able to use it as if it were already
> > scripted out
> > of the box? Does that make sense?
> > specially if we're only like talking about the
> > tutorial stage of the program at this point.
> > I'm wondering if there might not be an easier application which
> > *may* speak
> > out of the box more intuitively, than this? and perhaps if you've
> > paid for
> > this and it's not accessible, and you really feel you can't utilize it
> > effectively enough to warrant the money you've paid for it, that you
> > could
> > approach the developers and upon this special and to them unusual
> > situation,
> > retreave your purchase price from them on it, and maybe try other
> > alternatives?
> >
> > Or are you very set on wanting to try and gain access to this one.
> > if so,
> > might I recommend you might wanna try and attack driving it/seeing
> > if you
> > can get it accessible, using a more front end menu driven type tool,
> > like
> > hotSpot clicker?
> >
> > A sighted person would obviously be needed to help yo u identify the
> > clickable areas of the screen to accomplish various things, but,
> > once you
> > install hsc, then connect it to the spyware blaster application, and
> > you've
> > learned the ins and outs/caveats of defining hotspots, and providing
> > them
> > with useful labels and keystrokes for yourself, and you grab a sighted
> > person for a couple hours who might be willing to help you learn it,
> > I might
> > suggest you might achieve some passable results using this method?
> >
> > It's just that once you've mastered a couple of, "how To's," with
> > hotSpotClicker, my own view is that it's far in a wayz an easier
> > approach to
> > take to gaining some level of accessibility to programs, than the
> > scripting
> > solution, if you've never ever done any scripting before? Because it
> > approaches the solution using many menu/wizard choices, rather than
> > expecting you to know raw code, as you pretty much have to do when
> > scripting? and this is no easy feat!
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > geoff c.
> >
> >
> > From: "Chris & Doris" <chipmunks@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 11:04 AM
> > Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Are there jaws scripts for spy ware
> > blaster?
> >
> >
> >> These scripts, if I remember correctly, were done by Miss Debbie
> >> Scales. I am sure she would be intersted in helping because she had a
> >> real servent's heart. However, we cannot ask her because she moved on
> >> to a different plane of existence a few years ago.
> >>
> >> Someone plese correct me if I am wrong on the authorship of the
> >> scripts. The old scripts can still be found in the program section
> >> up on
> >>
> >> http://www.jfwlite.com/programs.html
> >>
> >> hth
> >>
> >> Doris
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 09:51 AM 5/1/2009 +1000, you wrote:
> >>> Hi Chris & Doris and david.
> >>>
> >>> right. ok, well please pardon my ignorance upon that one.
> >>> and Thanks for setting us straight about the different purposes
> >>> for the
> > two
> >>> types of spyware applications.
> >>>
> >>> Since you also seem to be aware of the existence of Scripts for
> >>> previous
> >>> versions which david has referred to before if memory serves,
> >>> Are you perhaps aware of the identity of the author's of those
> >>> scripts,
> > with
> >>> the view to asking them personally if they are interested in any
> >>> ongoing
> >>> development for them? although I suppose if they had been, then
> >>> scripts
> >>> supporting the new versions of spyware blaster would've been readily
> >>> available from wherever those previous ones had been gotten.
> >>> Since you are obvoiusly users of this program, and have managed to
> >>> drive
> > the
> >>> program successfuly using the jaws Cursor, perhaps you and david
> >>> could
> >>> communicate personally
> >>> as regards this, since there seems to be significant enough
> >>> difficulties
> >>> there that I don't believe this is the first time David has sought
> >>> assistance with operation of this program?
> >>>
> >>> It just seems to me david, that if all this is not forthcoming, it
> >>> might
> > be
> >>> worth for you, either:
> >>> A. tracking down the developers of spyware blaster itself, and
> >>> finding
> > out
> >>> how aware they are of accessibility issues, and seeking to
> >>> highlight for
> >>> them, some of the issues your facing as a blind user, and in doing
> >>> so,
> >>> seeking to gage their interest in helping make their program more
> > accessible
> >>> from the, "back end," where of course the most joy/benefit would be
> > gained,
> >>> for them as well as for wider community,
> >>> if their interest/motivation as regards
> >>> increasing accessibility to their software for the most people, was
> > excited.
> >>> Rather than tracking down a script based solution, which of course
> >>> is
> >>> continually going to break every time a new version of the
> >>> software is
> >>> released, especially if the developers have no idea as yet, about
> >>> accessibility issues or concerns.
> >>>
> >>> B. find another program which does a similar job, (there'd have to
> >>> be
> > stacks
> >>> I'd have thought,) that might be, "out of the box," more
> > accessible/drivable
> >>> for you, than this program obviously is?
> >>> have you as yet sought to follow either of these A or B tracks, as
> > outlined
> >>> above?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> geoff c.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:34 PM
> >>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Are there jaws scripts for spy ware
> >>> blaster?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Spyware Blaster and Superantispyware are two different programs
> >>>> with
> >>>> different functionality.
> >>>>
> >>>> Superantispyware detects and removes spyware while spyware blaster
> >>>> prevents installation of a lot of spyware in the first place by
> >>>> using
> >>>> a sort of blacklist to prevent spyware from getting into the
> >>>> computer
> >>>> in the first place.
> >>>>
> >>>> There used to be jaws scripts for it but the interface of the
> >>>> program
> >>>> has changed so that the scripts no longer work. It is possible to
> >>>> use
> >>>> the program by using the jaws cursor, hthough. I am not sure if
> >>>> this
> >>>> is scriptable.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> Doris
> >>>>
> >>>> At 10:26 PM 4/30/2009 +1000, you wrote:
> >>>>> David. you always use the jawsCursor, if you want to simulate a
> > mousClick
> >>> on
> >>>>> anything. the jaws Cursor is the same as the mouse. so when your
> >>> navigating
> >>>>> with the jaws cursor, you are moving the mouse around the screen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But this will very often not identify controls as buttons etc,
> >>>>> if the
> > tab
> >>>>> key doesn't do so. So you still need to know where this button
> >>>>> is,
> > or
> >>> have
> >>>>> some way of knowing what potentially numbered graphic, which it
> >>>>> might
> >>>>> identify itself as, is the next button etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Have you thought of trying superantiSpyware? it's a very
> >>>>> accessible
> >>> program
> >>>>> out of the box it seems to me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> From: "david ingram" <dingram269@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 1:22 PM
> >>>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Are there jaws scripts for spy ware
> >>>>> blaster?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi list members, i'd like to know if there are jaws scripts for
> > spy
> >>> ware
> >>>>> blaster? If so, where can i get them from?
> >>>>>> The reason why i ask this question is because i'm having a
> >>>>>> problem
> >>> with
> >>>>> going through the tutorial when i need to choose the item that
> >>>>> says
> >>> manual
> >>>>> updating, But i'm not sure if this is a dialog or a button.
> >>>>> There is
> >>> also a
> >>>>> next button, but i'm not sure what cursor that i need to use to
> > semulate
> >>> a
> >>>>> mouse click for that button whether it should be the jaws
> >>>>> cursor, pc
> >>> cursor,
> >>>>> or the invisible cursor. I would appreciate any information
> >>>>> that any
> > one
> >>>>> might have about this, thank you.
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