[jawsscripts] Re: A question!
- From: Engin Yılmaz <engin_yilmaz@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:10:44 +0200
Hello, My name is Engin Yilmaz . Sevgiler means like sincerely in turkish
which is the part of my signiture.
Thank you for your questions. I want to answer them as I Know:
1. Actually I am using JAWS 10..0 but in that company where the telephone
operation program works, there was jaws11.0.
2. You can access to list view with arrow keys or tab key. or, there are a
series of edit boxes navigated by tab keys in the program. for instance,
when you come to last name edit field and write something, the list view
that include the contacts with that lastname appear and JAWS identifies it
as a list view. In fact jaws can read the first item in that moment on that
list. but when you arrow down to see the next item, although the focus come
to second item, JAWS does not say anything unless you press say line
command.
3. Actually I don't know what is happennning visually when I focus to a
different item When I go to that company I will ask it to a sighted person.
But I know that JAWS can identify the new item. I know this because when I
press insert+tab, JAWS says two of nine three of nine like the index of item
that has been focused but does not read the item text with insert+tab.
In addition, When I press insert+5 tu learn the color combination, there was
no change white on blue like that.
4. The answer is exactly yes. In fact I write a temporary script for my
friend working in that company. when ctrl+windows+down arrow is pressed JAWS
goes to route jaws to pc read the information in line in the order as we
determine and comes to p c cursor again. the interesting point is this,
although it reads the item with route jaws to p c or say line command, it
does not read it automatically.
5. This list is a part of a telephone operation program for a medical
company. the task is to answer the comming phones, write the last name, if
there are multiple contacts select the correct one from the list and
transfer the phone into correct one. a clasical job but everything is done
with computers including answering the job. there is no internet explorer
related software of java.
as you said JAWS somehow know that it focus to a new item but something is
missing.
Here I want to ask another question. in first step, because we can read the
item with sayline command, I tried to write a scripts by using it. But my
friend ask that jaws first reads the name than the number although it is
reverse in the item. for such kinds of situations I can use jaws cursor by
saying
jaws end
prior word
let name = getword
etc.
is it possible to divide a unique item like getline or get ItemText?
Thanks for your help.
Engin YILMAZ
Engelsiz Erişim Grubu Üyesi ve GETEM Direktörü
www.engelsizerisim.com
www.getem.boun.edu.tr
tel: 0532 552 11 40
iş tel GETEM: 0212 359 76 59
iş e-posta:
engin.yilmaz@xxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 11:33 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: A question!
> hi Sevgiler,
>
> ok now, hang on a sec.
>
> couple things that occur to me to ask here.
>
> 1. which version of jaws are you using here.
>
> 2. when you initially move focus to this list of which you speak, perhaps
> with tab or shiftTab etc,
> does jaws identify it as a "list View," or perhaps "edit combo" control?
> what does jaws say when you first move focus to this listing.
>
> 3. have you had any sightlings look at the list your speaking of, to
> determine whether each item in the list, does actually visibly change
> color
> as you move with PcCursor arrows,
> , to reflect which item in the list currently has focus?
> if not, is it readily apparent to the sighted person, what method is
> actually being employed, to direct visual attention to the item that
> currently has focus in the list?
> i.e. if no color change is detectable, might it have a small rectangle
> which
> emBoarders each item as it gains focus? or some other method of drawing
> visual attention?
>
> 4. when you Route JawsToPc, i.e. with JawsKey+NumPadMinus, which is in
> effect bringing the mouse to the place where the system believes it has
> current focus,
> can you successfully read the currently focused list Item with the Jaws
> cursor/mouse?
> Can you read any other items in the list with the jawsCursor? or does jaws
> say, "blank" when you try and read anything onScreen with the jawsCursor.
>
>
> 5. is this list of which you speak, per chance in an environment with an
> internet explorer front end, which may be running java, as part of it's
> back
> end?
>
> Aditionally, I would observe that because you say that when the pc cursor
> is
> active,
> pressing ReadCurrentLine each time you move in the list with an arrow key,
> successfully reads the new item, this would indicate to me that jaws, is,
> somehow
> still getting some correct idea of where focus currently is.
> and other more advanced Scripters than I, might thus like to comment
> further
> on this aspect of your problem, as to what other steps you might take to
> furtyher diagnose/solve this.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Engin Yılmaz" <engin_yilmaz@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 7:10 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: A question!
>
>
>> Actualy I tried it. JAWS wants me to determine bacground or foreground
>> color
>> , I tried both of them but it did not work.
>> Sevgiler
>> Engin YILMAZ
>> Engelsiz Erişim Grubu Üyesi ve GETEM Direktörü
>> www.engelsizerisim.com
>> www.getem.boun.edu.tr
>> tel: 0532 552 11 40
>> iş tel GETEM: 0212 359 76 59
>> iş e-posta:
>> engin.yilmaz@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Homme, James" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:37 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: A question!
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> You may not need to write scripts for this. Sometimes you can use the
>>> Custom Highlight Assign feature of JAWS to make JAWS think that the item
>>> to which you move is highlighted. Use Insert + F2 and select Custom
>>> Highlight Assign. The screens that come up will guide you.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>> Jim Homme,
>>> Usability Services,
>>> Phone: 412-544-1810
>>> Skype: jim.homme
>>> Internal recipients, Read my accessibility blog
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Engin Yilmaz
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:02 PM
>>> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [jawsscripts] A question!
>>>
>>> Hi everyone, Last two days ago, I went to to place to write some
>>> scripts.
>>> I saw a list view where the phone numbers and names opf the people are
>>> listed. when I arrow down the list JAWS does not read the list view
>>> item.
>>> I can read it by pressing insert+up arrow. Which kinds of code should I
>>> write for jaws to read the item automatically when arrow down?
>>> note: I tried to change the highlight color for that program but it did
>>> not work.
>>> Sevgiler
>>> Engin YILMAZ
>>> Engelsiz Eriþim Grubu Üyesi ve GETEM Direktörü
>>> www.engelsizerisim.com
>>> www.getem.boun.edu.tr
>>> tel: 0532 552 11 40
>>> iþ tel GETEM: 0212 359 76 59
>>> iþ e-posta:
>>> engin.yilmaz@xxxxxxxxxxx
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