[JAWSLite] Re: help with a web site
- From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
- To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:22:40 -0600
Hello David,
I think you will also need to label the links on just one of the sub pages.
Here's why this might be, and maybe this will help. Of course, I don't know
how the file structure is for this particular site. The home page is
typically stored in a route directory. Sub pages are typically stored in a
subdirectory often called html. Image files are in a folder called images.
These subfolders are typically at the same level as the home page.
Therefore, once you are in one of the subpages, the path name for the other
links changes. However, the good thing is that all the subpages will use the
same path name, so they should recognize the labels. It's the home page that
is often different. This is underlying stuff that you don't see as the end
user.
Try labelling a link on a sub page and see if it is recognized on other
subpages.
Good luck getting the author to fill in the alt tags.
Jean
The home page is typically stored in a route directory. When you click on a
link, it typically looks
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Maynard" <dmaynard35@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:19 PM
Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: help with a web site
Hi Jean;
Thanks for the info. I have gaken your first step and labelled the
links on the home page but these labels do not work after a link is
pressed. I will discuss the problem with the web master and I
really believe he will fix it.
David Maynard
Franklin NC
dmaynard35@xxxxxxxxxxx
At Thursday 6/4/2009, you wrote:
>Hello David,
>
>There are several things you can do.
>
>First, if you can get sighted help to identify what the links are, you can
>label them with Jaws. When you're on a link that reads with the image name,
>press insert-control-tab. You'll be in a dialog box where you can type the
>name you want Jaws to read when it encounters that link on that website.
>These settings are stored in your Jaws settings folder. This all works fine
>until the site author makes changes. LOL.
>
>In terms of educating, I've found it helpful to actually instruct people
>what they need to do. It's one thing for us to complain that it doesn't
>work
>well with screenreaders, but sighted people often don't get it and don't
>know what to do to fix it. It works fine for them, right?
>
>So, I looked at the code for the web page. I think the author used a site
>builder package and likely doesn't know how to edit the coding. But here's
>what to tell him.
>
>For a screenreader to properly read a link, it needs to have an alt tag. If
>it doesn't have an alt tag, then it reads the source file name or image
>name
>associated with the link in hopes of giving you some useful information.
>That's what you're getting.
>
>I picked a line from the code as an example. Turn on all punctuation as
>this
>has a lot of less than, greater than, quotation marks and slashes in it.:
>
><tr><td><a href="ministries.html"><img name="i25"
>src="sitebuilder/images/Home-8-inactive-26687.png" border="0" width="205"
>height="19" alt=""/></a></td></tr><tr><td><a
>
>Near the end of this string is the code:
>alt=""
>
>You can see that this is an empty code because there is nothing between the
>two quotation marks. If the author puts text between the quotation marks,
>that's what a screenreader will read when you navigate to it. This text
>will
>also pop up for sighted users as they move their mouse over the image.
>
>I can tell this is created by a site builder because you see that in the
>coding, and no real author would have this much unspace coding. Ug. If you
>want to view the code for yourself, Load the page in Internet Explorer, go
>to the View menu and press enter on Source.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Jean
>
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