[JAWSLite] Re: accessible text to mp3
- From: Christopher Chaltain <cchaltain@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:52:28 -0500
I agree with everything being said here except for one point. I'm not
sure why FS shouldn't include the RealSpeak voices with JFW. You don't
need to install them and, if you do, you don't need to use them except
in certain situations. I think the issues being pointed out here are
pretty well understood limitations of the concatinative voice
technology, and I think FS has been pretty up front about this, hence
the say all feature in the first place. I think this is the future of
synthetic speech though, and I think this is where most of the research
is being directed right now. I'm not aware of any new development going
on with Eloquence or that voice technology. If RealSpeak voices and
it's ilk are the future then I hope the blind get involved early, and
our issues with things like responsiveness, get addressed.
Steve Gomes wrote:
Hi Chris and list. I was excited about the real speak voices and tried
to get use to them. For me I thought Samantha was the clearest to
understand. I have two cochlear implant hearing devices. After a few
months of trying to get use to it. I unchecked the say all with SAPI 5
and just use eloquence. It is too bulky and when you use it for the
first time after you start the computer, it takes a ling time to get
going. and you have to go slow or it seems to trip over itself. Other
people have said the same thing to me. And I agree that freedom should
not have added this to the product. I like crystal of at&t natural
voices. But again eloquence is fine.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Christopher Collins <mailto:ccollins1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*To:* jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2007 7:33 PM
*Subject:* [JAWSLite] Re: accessible text to mp3
Hi, Mohammed and greetings to all:
Though I don't have a direct answer to your question, you make an
excellent point about Eloquence. On December 4, 2006, I posted a
message to the yahoogroups JAWS list shortly after I had installed
and tried out the RealSpeak synthesizer I received with JAWS 8.
The subject of my post at that time was Raining on the RealSpeak
Parade. I agree with you, Mohammed, about Eloquence. Here is
what I said at that time.
Greetings to all:
The old saying goes that it's difference of opinion that makes
horse races. A few folks on this list have been very excited
about the addition of the RealSpeak Sapi5 Solo Synthesizer to the
new JFW8. Well, here I come to express just the opposite
viewpoint and to say that I can not share in the enthusiasm. In
fact, after having installed it and tried it out, I have gone so
far as to remove it once again from my computer. I'm writing this
to make it known that not everyone necessarily likes it. What are
the reasons I don't like it? Let me try to tell you all why. If
you simply consider only the actual quality of the voices
themselves, you would have to be enthusiastic, because they are
of announcer quality. As far as just the vocal quality itself,
these synthesized voices have never yet been equaled. But just
hearing the vocal quality alone is not the whole story of what
synthesized speech should be. It doesn't stop there. Because
while Eloquence does not have the vocal quality of RealSpeak, it
does a much better job of handling something just as (and, maybe
more) important which is the inflection, the cadence and the
ultimate emotionality of the reading. I find the RealSpeak speech
to be rather stilted and unnatural. You can almost hear the
speech being pieced together. The phrasing and the emphasis is
often all wrong. At times, some words seem to get almost
swallowed up and mumbled over. Even with its poorer actual voice
quality, I still feel that Eloquence wins hands down when it comes
to capturing the emotional eexperience and communicating the real
meaning of what I am trying to read. I think FS should not have
added this product to JAWS until some of the inflection issues
became handled in a more advanced manner than they are at
present. Sorry, folks! At 08:04 PM 3/30/2007 +0700, you wrote:
HI!
Does anyone know of an accessible program which can convert text
to mp3
using via voice/eloquence?
God willing, I'll be away from computers for about 4 months to a
year and I
definitely do have many books to read.
So far I only like and understand eloquence the most in
comparison with any
other speech synth.
Thanks in advance
Muhammad Islah Busakorn
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----- Original Message -----
*From:* Christopher Collins <mailto:ccollins1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*To:* jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2007 7:33 PM
*Subject:* [JAWSLite] Re: accessible text to mp3
Hi, Mohammed and greetings to all:
Though I don't have a direct answer to your question, you make an
excellent point about Eloquence. On December 4, 2006, I posted a
message to the yahoogroups JAWS list shortly after I had installed
and tried out the RealSpeak synthesizer I received with JAWS 8.
The subject of my post at that time was Raining on the RealSpeak
Parade. I agree with you, Mohammed, about Eloquence. Here is
what I said at that time.
Greetings to all:
The old saying goes that it's difference of opinion that makes
horse races. A few folks on this list have been very excited
about the addition of the RealSpeak Sapi5 Solo Synthesizer to the
new JFW8. Well, here I come to express just the opposite
viewpoint and to say that I can not share in the enthusiasm. In
fact, after having installed it and tried it out, I have gone so
far as to remove it once again from my computer. I'm writing this
to make it known that not everyone necessarily likes it. What are
the reasons I don't like it? Let me try to tell you all why. If
you simply consider only the actual quality of the voices
themselves, you would have to be enthusiastic, because they are
of announcer quality. As far as just the vocal quality itself,
these synthesized voices have never yet been equaled. But just
hearing the vocal quality alone is not the whole story of what
synthesized speech should be. It doesn't stop there. Because
while Eloquence does not have the vocal quality of RealSpeak, it
does a much better job of handling something just as (and, maybe
more) important which is the inflection, the cadence and the
ultimate emotionality of the reading. I find the RealSpeak speech
to be rather stilted and unnatural. You can almost hear the
speech being pieced together. The phrasing and the emphasis is
often all wrong. At times, some words seem to get almost
swallowed up and mumbled over. Even with its poorer actual voice
quality, I still feel that Eloquence wins hands down when it comes
to capturing the emotional eexperience and communicating the real
meaning of what I am trying to read. I think FS should not have
added this product to JAWS until some of the inflection issues
became handled in a more advanced manner than they are at
present. Sorry, folks! At 08:04 PM 3/30/2007 +0700, you wrote:
HI!
Does anyone know of an accessible program which can convert text
to mp3
using via voice/eloquence?
God willing, I'll be away from computers for about 4 months to a
year and I
definitely do have many books to read.
So far I only like and understand eloquence the most in
comparison with any
other speech synth.
Thanks in advance
Muhammad Islah Busakorn
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