[JAWSLite] Re: -----SPAM----- Re: enter the text in the box

Ah, I think they were referring to the statement "we have no idea who 
these Webvisum people are or what their motivation is or who they're 
working for.", which although I'm sure I'm misreading it, does seem a 
bit reactionary or just paranoid. After all, I don't usually question 
the motivation of the developers of most of the tools I download from 
the web.

BTW, from the FAQ for WebVisum at http://www.webvisum.com/wiki/FAQ, with 
respect to "it could be any number of things" it says:

• We will probably never have an Internet Explorer version. The reasons 
are simple:
1. Internet Explorer is much more difficult to develop for than Firefox 
and thus it will cost us a lot of time and money to provide you with a 
high quality product that you would enjoy using. We prefer to spend that 
time and money developing what we already have even further!
2. Firefox is currently the most accessible browser on the planet. 
Version 3.0 which was recently released ranks as probably THE best 
browser out there overall in accessibility, performance and memory 
consumption. It is also very frequently updated, especially with 
important fixes. You simply can't go wrong with Firefox. It is the 
future browser of the Internet. Now is the best time to start using it.

On the issue of the motivation of the WebvVisum developers, it says:

First of all, we find it fun to work on this kind of stuff! We love it. 
We also like to help people. We're not blind or visually impaired but we 
make our living by developing web sites and Internet tools and we love 
doing it, especially when we have happy users who love our products, 
too. We were frequently approached by people who were asking us to make 
minor changes to our sites to make them more accessible to them. We 
decided to see what all the fuss is about and to our surprise, we found 
that accessibility is often a neglected aspect by many site operators, 
big or small. Not only because of lack of care or attention but also due 
to reasons such as lack of time or knowledge or sometimes lack of 
funding to make the right adjustments. In many cases we also think it is 
also the lack of feedback from the site users themselves! So this was an 
opportunity to put our programmer hats and see if we can find situations 
to your every day problems. As weeks and months went by we came up with 
a solid plan and implemented what you see right now. We believe in self 
empowerment, the basics of the Internet and good human nature. We 
believe that if we build the tools, you'll be able to use them to the 
best of your advantage! So there you have it, we built the tools, it's 
time to use them.

Note that the FAQ also answers questions on privacy, what gets sent to 
the server and more. I'd suggest giving it a read if you have any 
questions or concerns regarding WebVisum.

For my part, I see WebVisum and Firefox as just another tool in the 
arsenal. I happen to use Firefox as my default browser, but I don't 
hesitate to bring up IE if I think a page is going to be easier to use 
in IE over Firefox.

Bruce Toews wrote:
> No reaction, just a few facts.
>
> Bruce
>
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, The Elf wrote:
>
>   
>> ah, you don't, some of us do, lol
>>
>> what an over reactionary crowd we can be?
>>
>> the elf
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <bruce@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:48 PM
>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: -----SPAM----- Re: enter the text in the box
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Maybe, and I'm an I.E. user too, but maybe it's a case of Firefox allows
>>> for the interface and I.E. does not.Or it could be any number of things,
>>> we have no idea who these Webvisum people are or what their motivation is
>>> or who they're working for.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Rick Harmon wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Basically because I am an IE user and don't care for firefox.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:53 PM
>>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: -----SPAM----- Re: enter the text in the box
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rick,
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry to prolong the thread, but why wouldn't a person want to use
>>>> Firefox if it has this capability, along with several others?
>>>>
>>>> This is getting far afield from a JAWS discussion, and I guess I've said
>>>> what I feel I need to. But to my good friends, Steve and Arthur, Pin
>>>> would
>>>> not be the answer if Webvisum weren't here, and I would have completely
>>>> agreed with their and other listers' comments.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:37 PM
>>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: -----SPAM----- Re: enter the text in the box
>>>>
>>>> What if I don't want to use firefox though?
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Steve Gomes" <finnygomes@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:34 PM
>>>> Subject: -----SPAM----- [JAWSLite] Re: enter the text in the box
>>>>
>>>> well what I did was tell Pin. Pin came and typed in the words because she
>>>> can see. Very quick and easy and I didn't have to download or learn
>>>> firefox.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Adrian Spratt" <Adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:03 PM
>>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: enter the text in the box
>>>>
>>>> I've been hoping someone would challenge this thread. Webvisum has
>>>> created a
>>>> solution for this former problem, so this stand is no longer principled
>>>> or
>>>> defensible. It's about cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:50 PM
>>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: enter the text in the box
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Rose. I avoid any site that wants you to type in a code if they don't
>>>> have audio captia. That's exactly why I won't get a yahoo account.
>>>> Rosemarie
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Rose Combs" <rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:08 AM
>>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: enter the text in the box
>>>>
>>>> Better yet, don't use the site which is generally my policy. Much easier
>>>> than installing a browser and being invited to use a piece of
>>>> programming.
>>>>
>>>> Rose Combs rosecombs@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of The Elf
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:23 AM
>>>> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: enter the text in the box
>>>>
>>>> get firefox and web visum, and take care of it yourself, smile
>>>>
>>>> inthane
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Steve Gomes" <finnygomes@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "jawslite" <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:38 PM
>>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] enter the text in the box
>>>>
>>>> I tell you. I don't know what we are gona do but I tried to join facebook
>>>> today and it has one of those things where you have to listen to a
>>>> distorted
>>>> recording of numbers and type them in a box. For the life of me I
>>>>
>>>> couldn't understand the recording. Even after playing it several times. I
>>>> will have to get sighted help. I realize they have to make the recording
>>>> hard for spammers to pick up but there must be another solution.
>>>>
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