[JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon

So, then, since GW is the smaller, lesser-known company, the Small-Talk
Ultra is the higher-priced generic counterpart to the Oqo.

Bruce


On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:55:17 -0400, "Chip Orange"
<Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> No, they did not modify it in any way, and so in my definition, that's a
> counterpart.  They did modify window eyes, and some of the windows
> settings, but they did not modify the hardware, and GW told me that
> themselves.
> 
> 
> Chip
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:10 PM
> > To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon
> > 
> > The Oqo is not the generic counterpart, or counter-part as 
> > you put it, of 
> > the Smalltalk Ultra. The Smalltak Ultra *is* an Oqo which GW 
> > Micro took, 
> > unmodified, raised the price on, and called it their own.
> > 
> > Bruce
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> > On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Chip Orange wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > I think your idea is spot-on.
> > >
> > > In vista, there's free speech recognition built-in, which 
> > is reportedly
> > > as accurate as that of Dragon, and MS has just released a beta of an
> > > add-on product for the speech recognition which gives it macros
> > > capability (the product is referred to as WSR macros, and it's
> > > downloadable if you search for it).
> > >
> > > I'm switching to window eyes, not intending to start any 
> > arguments here,
> > > but I'm going to use it's scripting facility to interface 
> > it with the
> > > speech recognition macros, to do just what you describe: a very
> > > light-weight interface to give us a talking/listening computer.  I'm
> > > sure anyone determined enough can do the same with the jaws 
> > scripting
> > > facility.
> > >
> > > It sounds like Dragon has an API of some sort, and I  know that some
> > > versions (I think professional?) have scripting capabilities, so it
> > > should be possible to have the same light-weight interface 
> > using Dragon
> > > scripting.
> > >
> > > Maybe someone could even use the SayTools from Jamal Mazrui 
> > so that it's
> > > screen-reader independent (if the dragon scripts can interface with
> > > SayTools that is).
> > >
> > > I think your quite right about where interfaces are going; 
> > and once you
> > > consider this idea, have a look at the SmallTalk Ultra 
> > being sold by GW,
> > > or it's generic counter-part from Oqo.  It's a fully 
> > functional laptop
> > > computer (with a 120 gb hard drive or 64 gb solid-state drive), that
> > > weighs around 1 pound and can clip to your belt.  It's got 
> > Bluetooth and
> > > wifi built-in, and an optional ev-do card.  You could use a 
> > bluetooth
> > > headset to talk to it and have it talk to you, wear it on 
> > your belt, and
> > > go somewhere with your hands free and have your computer 
> > available to
> > > you at any time.  Maybe even someone will develope some talking GPS
> > > software for it????
> > >
> > > FYI, if this interests you, it's been told to me that you 
> > can buy models
> > > with faster processor and more money from Oqo, or an Oqo 
> > dealer, than
> > > the Ultra being sold by GW Micro, but I haven't verified this for
> > > certain.  Perhaps GW would order you the same enhanced models if you
> > > want; their thing is that they only sell it with a copy of 
> > window eyes
> > > installed.
> > >
> > > I've seen it in use, with an omni-directional barcode 
> > scanner attached,
> > > clipped to someone's belt, and using wifi and a free window 
> > eyes script
> > > which let it lookup the scanned barcode on an internet 
> > database and give
> > > you an instantaneous product description.  It was a very 
> > impressive demo
> > > of what a computer without a keyboard can be used for.
> > >
> > > Nice brain-storming with you; please let me know if you come up with
> > > anything along these lines.
> > >
> > > Chip
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
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> > > Chip Orange
> > > Database Administrator
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> > > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> > > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Bullis
> > >> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:22 PM
> > >> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: [JAWSLite] Jaws Scripts for Dragon
> > >>
> > >> I'm sure this subject has come up many times and there is
> > >> probably some
> > >> obvious reason for why the proposal I'm going to make hasn't
> > >> been done, but
> > >> I'd sure like to know it.
> > >>
> > >> I recently began some experimentation with jsay, the
> > >> commercial program that
> > >> interfaces with Dragon Naturally Speaking.  Although the
> > >> program has some
> > >> nice features, I'm not sure it doesn't do far more than it
> > >> needs to do and
> > >> I'm troubled by the numerous times it seems to actually slow
> > >> down my ability
> > >> to use dragon.
> > >>
> > >> I've been a dragon user for a couple of years without jsay 
> > or any jaws
> > >> scripts.  Yes, there are features I can't use as I would
> > >> like, but, I do use
> > >> the program fairly effectively.  What I'd really like are 
> > simply a few
> > >> scripts that allow access to the Dragon bar more easily and to the
> > >> correction box.  Jaws sometimes loses focus and can't read specific
> > >> information dragon is trying to convey.  But, I'm not sure 
> > creating an
> > >> entire interface as jsay does is really the answer.
> > >> So, I'm wondering why somebody doesn't just create some jaws
> > >> scripts and
> > >> sell them for a bit of cash.  I think that for the sighted as
> > >> well as the
> > >> blind the era is coming when most of us talk to our
> > >> computers.  I don't
> > >> think that the sighted public will type when there is an 
> > alternative.
> > >> Dragon is much more user friendly than it has been in the
> > >> past and training
> > >> that use to be time consuming is now very very quick and
> > >> easy.  Being able
> > >> to put information on a page at 200 words a minute is really
> > >> liberating, and
> > >> I say that as someone who is a pretty fast typist.  But, I
> > >> can't compete
> > >> with Dragon.  Furthermore, there is never a mis-spelled word
> > >> with Dragon.
> > >> Yes, there are wrong words, but not mis-spelled ones.  Even
> > >> this wrong word
> > >> phenomena goes away once one learns how to tell Dragon 
> > what you meant.
> > >>
> > >> So, are there some scripts out there that I just can't find?
> > >> Or, are there
> > >> some reasons that I'm not considering as to why scripts 
> > haven't been
> > >> developed?
> > >> Mike Bullis
> > >> Baltimore Maryland
> > >>
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