[JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon

No, they did not modify it in any way, and so in my definition, that's a
counterpart.  They did modify window eyes, and some of the windows
settings, but they did not modify the hardware, and GW told me that
themselves.


Chip





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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:10 PM
> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon
> 
> The Oqo is not the generic counterpart, or counter-part as 
> you put it, of 
> the Smalltalk Ultra. The Smalltak Ultra *is* an Oqo which GW 
> Micro took, 
> unmodified, raised the price on, and called it their own.
> 
> Bruce
> 
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> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Chip Orange wrote:
> 
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I think your idea is spot-on.
> >
> > In vista, there's free speech recognition built-in, which 
> is reportedly
> > as accurate as that of Dragon, and MS has just released a beta of an
> > add-on product for the speech recognition which gives it macros
> > capability (the product is referred to as WSR macros, and it's
> > downloadable if you search for it).
> >
> > I'm switching to window eyes, not intending to start any 
> arguments here,
> > but I'm going to use it's scripting facility to interface 
> it with the
> > speech recognition macros, to do just what you describe: a very
> > light-weight interface to give us a talking/listening computer.  I'm
> > sure anyone determined enough can do the same with the jaws 
> scripting
> > facility.
> >
> > It sounds like Dragon has an API of some sort, and I  know that some
> > versions (I think professional?) have scripting capabilities, so it
> > should be possible to have the same light-weight interface 
> using Dragon
> > scripting.
> >
> > Maybe someone could even use the SayTools from Jamal Mazrui 
> so that it's
> > screen-reader independent (if the dragon scripts can interface with
> > SayTools that is).
> >
> > I think your quite right about where interfaces are going; 
> and once you
> > consider this idea, have a look at the SmallTalk Ultra 
> being sold by GW,
> > or it's generic counter-part from Oqo.  It's a fully 
> functional laptop
> > computer (with a 120 gb hard drive or 64 gb solid-state drive), that
> > weighs around 1 pound and can clip to your belt.  It's got 
> Bluetooth and
> > wifi built-in, and an optional ev-do card.  You could use a 
> bluetooth
> > headset to talk to it and have it talk to you, wear it on 
> your belt, and
> > go somewhere with your hands free and have your computer 
> available to
> > you at any time.  Maybe even someone will develope some talking GPS
> > software for it????
> >
> > FYI, if this interests you, it's been told to me that you 
> can buy models
> > with faster processor and more money from Oqo, or an Oqo 
> dealer, than
> > the Ultra being sold by GW Micro, but I haven't verified this for
> > certain.  Perhaps GW would order you the same enhanced models if you
> > want; their thing is that they only sell it with a copy of 
> window eyes
> > installed.
> >
> > I've seen it in use, with an omni-directional barcode 
> scanner attached,
> > clipped to someone's belt, and using wifi and a free window 
> eyes script
> > which let it lookup the scanned barcode on an internet 
> database and give
> > you an instantaneous product description.  It was a very 
> impressive demo
> > of what a computer without a keyboard can be used for.
> >
> > Nice brain-storming with you; please let me know if you come up with
> > anything along these lines.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Chip Orange
> > Database Administrator
> > Florida Public Service Commission
> >
> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > (850) 413-6314
> >
> > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Bullis
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:22 PM
> >> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [JAWSLite] Jaws Scripts for Dragon
> >>
> >> I'm sure this subject has come up many times and there is
> >> probably some
> >> obvious reason for why the proposal I'm going to make hasn't
> >> been done, but
> >> I'd sure like to know it.
> >>
> >> I recently began some experimentation with jsay, the
> >> commercial program that
> >> interfaces with Dragon Naturally Speaking.  Although the
> >> program has some
> >> nice features, I'm not sure it doesn't do far more than it
> >> needs to do and
> >> I'm troubled by the numerous times it seems to actually slow
> >> down my ability
> >> to use dragon.
> >>
> >> I've been a dragon user for a couple of years without jsay 
> or any jaws
> >> scripts.  Yes, there are features I can't use as I would
> >> like, but, I do use
> >> the program fairly effectively.  What I'd really like are 
> simply a few
> >> scripts that allow access to the Dragon bar more easily and to the
> >> correction box.  Jaws sometimes loses focus and can't read specific
> >> information dragon is trying to convey.  But, I'm not sure 
> creating an
> >> entire interface as jsay does is really the answer.
> >> So, I'm wondering why somebody doesn't just create some jaws
> >> scripts and
> >> sell them for a bit of cash.  I think that for the sighted as
> >> well as the
> >> blind the era is coming when most of us talk to our
> >> computers.  I don't
> >> think that the sighted public will type when there is an 
> alternative.
> >> Dragon is much more user friendly than it has been in the
> >> past and training
> >> that use to be time consuming is now very very quick and
> >> easy.  Being able
> >> to put information on a page at 200 words a minute is really
> >> liberating, and
> >> I say that as someone who is a pretty fast typist.  But, I
> >> can't compete
> >> with Dragon.  Furthermore, there is never a mis-spelled word
> >> with Dragon.
> >> Yes, there are wrong words, but not mis-spelled ones.  Even
> >> this wrong word
> >> phenomena goes away once one learns how to tell Dragon 
> what you meant.
> >>
> >> So, are there some scripts out there that I just can't find?
> >> Or, are there
> >> some reasons that I'm not considering as to why scripts 
> haven't been
> >> developed?
> >> Mike Bullis
> >> Baltimore Maryland
> >>
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