[JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon

Thanks for the response.  I too think that we're at the edge of real speech
to computers.  It's far more difficult than anyone would have thought thirty
years ago but still, it's coming.  

I spent some time studying the Windoweyes manual lately to take a look at
new features and am still troubled by the far to geeky descriptions of how
to get things done.  Clearly it's far more powerful than Jaws.  They just
need someone who can explain it in normal speak.

I'll do some testing with the new Vista SR and see how it compares to
Dragon.  If you have any luck with the WSR macros let me know off list.
They describe it as pre-beta so it'll be interesting to see how far you get.
Thanks very much for the feedback.
Mike bullis
 

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On Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 5:05 PM
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Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon

Hi Mike,

I think your idea is spot-on.

In vista, there's free speech recognition built-in, which is reportedly as
accurate as that of Dragon, and MS has just released a beta of an add-on
product for the speech recognition which gives it macros capability (the
product is referred to as WSR macros, and it's downloadable if you search
for it).

I'm switching to window eyes, not intending to start any arguments here, but
I'm going to use it's scripting facility to interface it with the speech
recognition macros, to do just what you describe: a very light-weight
interface to give us a talking/listening computer.  I'm sure anyone
determined enough can do the same with the jaws scripting facility.

It sounds like Dragon has an API of some sort, and I  know that some
versions (I think professional?) have scripting capabilities, so it should
be possible to have the same light-weight interface using Dragon scripting.


Maybe someone could even use the SayTools from Jamal Mazrui so that it's
screen-reader independent (if the dragon scripts can interface with SayTools
that is).

I think your quite right about where interfaces are going; and once you
consider this idea, have a look at the SmallTalk Ultra being sold by GW, or
it's generic counter-part from Oqo.  It's a fully functional laptop computer
(with a 120 gb hard drive or 64 gb solid-state drive), that weighs around 1
pound and can clip to your belt.  It's got Bluetooth and wifi built-in, and
an optional ev-do card.  You could use a bluetooth headset to talk to it and
have it talk to you, wear it on your belt, and go somewhere with your hands
free and have your computer available to you at any time.  Maybe even
someone will develope some talking GPS software for it????

FYI, if this interests you, it's been told to me that you can buy models
with faster processor and more money from Oqo, or an Oqo dealer, than the
Ultra being sold by GW Micro, but I haven't verified this for certain.
Perhaps GW would order you the same enhanced models if you want; their thing
is that they only sell it with a copy of window eyes installed.

I've seen it in use, with an omni-directional barcode scanner attached,
clipped to someone's belt, and using wifi and a free window eyes script
which let it lookup the scanned barcode on an internet database and give you
an instantaneous product description.  It was a very impressive demo of what
a computer without a keyboard can be used for.

Nice brain-storming with you; please let me know if you come up with
anything along these lines.

Chip






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Florida Public Service Commission

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Bullis
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:22 PM
> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [JAWSLite] Jaws Scripts for Dragon
> 
> I'm sure this subject has come up many times and there is probably 
> some obvious reason for why the proposal I'm going to make hasn't been 
> done, but I'd sure like to know it.
>  
> I recently began some experimentation with jsay, the commercial 
> program that interfaces with Dragon Naturally Speaking.  Although the 
> program has some nice features, I'm not sure it doesn't do far more 
> than it needs to do and I'm troubled by the numerous times it seems to 
> actually slow down my ability to use dragon.
>  
> I've been a dragon user for a couple of years without jsay or any jaws 
> scripts.  Yes, there are features I can't use as I would like, but, I 
> do use the program fairly effectively.  What I'd really like are 
> simply a few scripts that allow access to the Dragon bar more easily 
> and to the correction box.  Jaws sometimes loses focus and can't read 
> specific information dragon is trying to convey.  But, I'm not sure 
> creating an entire interface as jsay does is really the answer.
> So, I'm wondering why somebody doesn't just create some jaws scripts 
> and sell them for a bit of cash.  I think that for the sighted as well 
> as the blind the era is coming when most of us talk to our computers.  
> I don't think that the sighted public will type when there is an 
> alternative.
> Dragon is much more user friendly than it has been in the past and 
> training that use to be time consuming is now very very quick and 
> easy.  Being able to put information on a page at 200 words a minute 
> is really liberating, and I say that as someone who is a pretty fast 
> typist.  But, I can't compete with Dragon.  Furthermore, there is 
> never a mis-spelled word with Dragon.
> Yes, there are wrong words, but not mis-spelled ones.  Even this wrong 
> word phenomena goes away once one learns how to tell Dragon what you 
> meant.
>  
> So, are there some scripts out there that I just can't find?  
> Or, are there
> some reasons that I'm not considering as to why scripts haven't been 
> developed?
> Mike Bullis
> Baltimore Maryland
>  
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