[JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon

Surely they would have done that with permission.  That is how lots of
business is done here.  Look in the grocery stores.  Many off-brand products
are produced by the big-name companies.

BTW, there sure seems to be a lot of growing hostility in these here parts
lately.




 

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On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:10 PM
To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon

The Oqo is not the generic counterpart, or counter-part as you put it, of
the Smalltalk Ultra. The Smalltak Ultra *is* an Oqo which GW Micro took,
unmodified, raised the price on, and called it their own.

Bruce

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On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Chip Orange wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> I think your idea is spot-on.
>
> In vista, there's free speech recognition built-in, which is 
> reportedly as accurate as that of Dragon, and MS has just released a 
> beta of an add-on product for the speech recognition which gives it 
> macros capability (the product is referred to as WSR macros, and it's 
> downloadable if you search for it).
>
> I'm switching to window eyes, not intending to start any arguments 
> here, but I'm going to use it's scripting facility to interface it 
> with the speech recognition macros, to do just what you describe: a 
> very light-weight interface to give us a talking/listening computer.  
> I'm sure anyone determined enough can do the same with the jaws 
> scripting facility.
>
> It sounds like Dragon has an API of some sort, and I  know that some 
> versions (I think professional?) have scripting capabilities, so it 
> should be possible to have the same light-weight interface using 
> Dragon scripting.
>
> Maybe someone could even use the SayTools from Jamal Mazrui so that 
> it's screen-reader independent (if the dragon scripts can interface 
> with SayTools that is).
>
> I think your quite right about where interfaces are going; and once 
> you consider this idea, have a look at the SmallTalk Ultra being sold 
> by GW, or it's generic counter-part from Oqo.  It's a fully functional 
> laptop computer (with a 120 gb hard drive or 64 gb solid-state drive), 
> that weighs around 1 pound and can clip to your belt.  It's got 
> Bluetooth and wifi built-in, and an optional ev-do card.  You could 
> use a bluetooth headset to talk to it and have it talk to you, wear it 
> on your belt, and go somewhere with your hands free and have your 
> computer available to you at any time.  Maybe even someone will 
> develope some talking GPS software for it????
>
> FYI, if this interests you, it's been told to me that you can buy 
> models with faster processor and more money from Oqo, or an Oqo 
> dealer, than the Ultra being sold by GW Micro, but I haven't verified 
> this for certain.  Perhaps GW would order you the same enhanced models 
> if you want; their thing is that they only sell it with a copy of 
> window eyes installed.
>
> I've seen it in use, with an omni-directional barcode scanner 
> attached, clipped to someone's belt, and using wifi and a free window 
> eyes script which let it lookup the scanned barcode on an internet 
> database and give you an instantaneous product description.  It was a 
> very impressive demo of what a computer without a keyboard can be used
for.
>
> Nice brain-storming with you; please let me know if you come up with 
> anything along these lines.
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Chip Orange
> Database Administrator
> Florida Public Service Commission
>
> Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> (850) 413-6314
>
> (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not 
> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Bullis
>> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:22 PM
>> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Jaws Scripts for Dragon
>>
>> I'm sure this subject has come up many times and there is probably 
>> some obvious reason for why the proposal I'm going to make hasn't 
>> been done, but I'd sure like to know it.
>>
>> I recently began some experimentation with jsay, the commercial 
>> program that interfaces with Dragon Naturally Speaking.  Although the 
>> program has some nice features, I'm not sure it doesn't do far more 
>> than it needs to do and I'm troubled by the numerous times it seems 
>> to actually slow down my ability to use dragon.
>>
>> I've been a dragon user for a couple of years without jsay or any 
>> jaws scripts.  Yes, there are features I can't use as I would like, 
>> but, I do use the program fairly effectively.  What I'd really like 
>> are simply a few scripts that allow access to the Dragon bar more 
>> easily and to the correction box.  Jaws sometimes loses focus and 
>> can't read specific information dragon is trying to convey.  But, I'm 
>> not sure creating an entire interface as jsay does is really the 
>> answer.
>> So, I'm wondering why somebody doesn't just create some jaws scripts 
>> and sell them for a bit of cash.  I think that for the sighted as 
>> well as the blind the era is coming when most of us talk to our 
>> computers.  I don't think that the sighted public will type when 
>> there is an alternative.
>> Dragon is much more user friendly than it has been in the past and 
>> training that use to be time consuming is now very very quick and 
>> easy.  Being able to put information on a page at 200 words a minute 
>> is really liberating, and I say that as someone who is a pretty fast 
>> typist.  But, I can't compete with Dragon.  Furthermore, there is 
>> never a mis-spelled word with Dragon.
>> Yes, there are wrong words, but not mis-spelled ones.  Even this 
>> wrong word phenomena goes away once one learns how to tell Dragon 
>> what you meant.
>>
>> So, are there some scripts out there that I just can't find?
>> Or, are there
>> some reasons that I'm not considering as to why scripts haven't been 
>> developed?
>> Mike Bullis
>> Baltimore Maryland
>>
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