[JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon

Hi Paula,

There aren't any jaws scripts for Dragon, that I know of any way.  Mike
was asking, couldn't someone write just a few relatively simple scripts
so people could get by without having to buy j-say?

That's what started me thinking about windows vista speech recognition,
and the macro capability that is an optional download for it, and could
they be used with any screen reader to make such a light-weight
interface for speech control.  I know this doesn't help all the xp
users, but I'm going to attempt such a set of window eyes scripts for
vista as soon as time allows.  I assume someone will likely do the same
for jaws, especially if we talk the idea up.  Who knows, maybe such an
arrangement could be done with the SayTools from Jamal, that would make
it work with either screen reader.

Chip

Chip





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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of paula and darwin
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:59 PM
> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon
> 
> i was wondering with the jaws scrips do u still need jaw 
> bones and or jay 
> say
> thanks paula
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:55 AM
> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon
> 
> 
> > No, they did not modify it in any way, and so in my 
> definition, that's a
> > counterpart.  They did modify window eyes, and some of the windows
> > settings, but they did not modify the hardware, and GW told me that
> > themselves.
> >
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Chip Orange
> > Database Administrator
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> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > (850) 413-6314
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> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> >> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:10 PM
> >> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon
> >>
> >> The Oqo is not the generic counterpart, or counter-part as
> >> you put it, of
> >> the Smalltalk Ultra. The Smalltak Ultra *is* an Oqo which GW
> >> Micro took,
> >> unmodified, raised the price on, and called it their own.
> >>
> >> Bruce
> >>
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> >> On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Chip Orange wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Mike,
> >> >
> >> > I think your idea is spot-on.
> >> >
> >> > In vista, there's free speech recognition built-in, which
> >> is reportedly
> >> > as accurate as that of Dragon, and MS has just released 
> a beta of an
> >> > add-on product for the speech recognition which gives it macros
> >> > capability (the product is referred to as WSR macros, and it's
> >> > downloadable if you search for it).
> >> >
> >> > I'm switching to window eyes, not intending to start any
> >> arguments here,
> >> > but I'm going to use it's scripting facility to interface
> >> it with the
> >> > speech recognition macros, to do just what you describe: a very
> >> > light-weight interface to give us a talking/listening 
> computer.  I'm
> >> > sure anyone determined enough can do the same with the jaws
> >> scripting
> >> > facility.
> >> >
> >> > It sounds like Dragon has an API of some sort, and I  
> know that some
> >> > versions (I think professional?) have scripting 
> capabilities, so it
> >> > should be possible to have the same light-weight interface
> >> using Dragon
> >> > scripting.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe someone could even use the SayTools from Jamal Mazrui
> >> so that it's
> >> > screen-reader independent (if the dragon scripts can 
> interface with
> >> > SayTools that is).
> >> >
> >> > I think your quite right about where interfaces are going;
> >> and once you
> >> > consider this idea, have a look at the SmallTalk Ultra
> >> being sold by GW,
> >> > or it's generic counter-part from Oqo.  It's a fully
> >> functional laptop
> >> > computer (with a 120 gb hard drive or 64 gb solid-state 
> drive), that
> >> > weighs around 1 pound and can clip to your belt.  It's got
> >> Bluetooth and
> >> > wifi built-in, and an optional ev-do card.  You could use a
> >> bluetooth
> >> > headset to talk to it and have it talk to you, wear it on
> >> your belt, and
> >> > go somewhere with your hands free and have your computer
> >> available to
> >> > you at any time.  Maybe even someone will develope some 
> talking GPS
> >> > software for it????
> >> >
> >> > FYI, if this interests you, it's been told to me that you
> >> can buy models
> >> > with faster processor and more money from Oqo, or an Oqo
> >> dealer, than
> >> > the Ultra being sold by GW Micro, but I haven't verified this for
> >> > certain.  Perhaps GW would order you the same enhanced 
> models if you
> >> > want; their thing is that they only sell it with a copy of
> >> window eyes
> >> > installed.
> >> >
> >> > I've seen it in use, with an omni-directional barcode
> >> scanner attached,
> >> > clipped to someone's belt, and using wifi and a free window
> >> eyes script
> >> > which let it lookup the scanned barcode on an internet
> >> database and give
> >> > you an instantaneous product description.  It was a very
> >> impressive demo
> >> > of what a computer without a keyboard can be used for.
> >> >
> >> > Nice brain-storming with you; please let me know if you 
> come up with
> >> > anything along these lines.
> >> >
> >> > Chip
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > Chip Orange
> >> > Database Administrator
> >> > Florida Public Service Commission
> >> >
> >> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > (850) 413-6314
> >> >
> >> > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> >> > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service 
> Commission.)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Bullis
> >> >> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:22 PM
> >> >> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> Subject: [JAWSLite] Jaws Scripts for Dragon
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm sure this subject has come up many times and there is
> >> >> probably some
> >> >> obvious reason for why the proposal I'm going to make hasn't
> >> >> been done, but
> >> >> I'd sure like to know it.
> >> >>
> >> >> I recently began some experimentation with jsay, the
> >> >> commercial program that
> >> >> interfaces with Dragon Naturally Speaking.  Although the
> >> >> program has some
> >> >> nice features, I'm not sure it doesn't do far more than it
> >> >> needs to do and
> >> >> I'm troubled by the numerous times it seems to actually slow
> >> >> down my ability
> >> >> to use dragon.
> >> >>
> >> >> I've been a dragon user for a couple of years without jsay
> >> or any jaws
> >> >> scripts.  Yes, there are features I can't use as I would
> >> >> like, but, I do use
> >> >> the program fairly effectively.  What I'd really like are
> >> simply a few
> >> >> scripts that allow access to the Dragon bar more easily 
> and to the
> >> >> correction box.  Jaws sometimes loses focus and can't 
> read specific
> >> >> information dragon is trying to convey.  But, I'm not sure
> >> creating an
> >> >> entire interface as jsay does is really the answer.
> >> >> So, I'm wondering why somebody doesn't just create some jaws
> >> >> scripts and
> >> >> sell them for a bit of cash.  I think that for the sighted as
> >> >> well as the
> >> >> blind the era is coming when most of us talk to our
> >> >> computers.  I don't
> >> >> think that the sighted public will type when there is an
> >> alternative.
> >> >> Dragon is much more user friendly than it has been in the
> >> >> past and training
> >> >> that use to be time consuming is now very very quick and
> >> >> easy.  Being able
> >> >> to put information on a page at 200 words a minute is really
> >> >> liberating, and
> >> >> I say that as someone who is a pretty fast typist.  But, I
> >> >> can't compete
> >> >> with Dragon.  Furthermore, there is never a mis-spelled word
> >> >> with Dragon.
> >> >> Yes, there are wrong words, but not mis-spelled ones.  Even
> >> >> this wrong word
> >> >> phenomena goes away once one learns how to tell Dragon
> >> what you meant.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, are there some scripts out there that I just can't find?
> >> >> Or, are there
> >> >> some reasons that I'm not considering as to why scripts
> >> haven't been
> >> >> developed?
> >> >> Mike Bullis
> >> >> Baltimore Maryland
> >> >>
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