[JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon

I would guess  so since it has been modified and includes a screen reader.
Sounds fair enough to me.



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On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 2:00 PM
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Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon

So, then, since GW is the smaller, lesser-known company, the Small-Talk
Ultra is the higher-priced generic counterpart to the Oqo.

Bruce


On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:55:17 -0400, "Chip Orange"
<Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
> No, they did not modify it in any way, and so in my definition, that's 
> a counterpart.  They did modify window eyes, and some of the windows 
> settings, but they did not modify the hardware, and GW told me that 
> themselves.
> 
> 
> Chip
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
> > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:10 PM
> > To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Jaws Scripts for Dragon
> > 
> > The Oqo is not the generic counterpart, or counter-part as you put 
> > it, of the Smalltalk Ultra. The Smalltak Ultra *is* an Oqo which GW 
> > Micro took, unmodified, raised the price on, and called it their 
> > own.
> > 
> > Bruce
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> > On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Chip Orange wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Mike,
> > >
> > > I think your idea is spot-on.
> > >
> > > In vista, there's free speech recognition built-in, which
> > is reportedly
> > > as accurate as that of Dragon, and MS has just released a beta of 
> > > an add-on product for the speech recognition which gives it macros 
> > > capability (the product is referred to as WSR macros, and it's 
> > > downloadable if you search for it).
> > >
> > > I'm switching to window eyes, not intending to start any
> > arguments here,
> > > but I'm going to use it's scripting facility to interface
> > it with the
> > > speech recognition macros, to do just what you describe: a very 
> > > light-weight interface to give us a talking/listening computer.  
> > > I'm sure anyone determined enough can do the same with the jaws
> > scripting
> > > facility.
> > >
> > > It sounds like Dragon has an API of some sort, and I  know that 
> > > some versions (I think professional?) have scripting capabilities, 
> > > so it should be possible to have the same light-weight interface
> > using Dragon
> > > scripting.
> > >
> > > Maybe someone could even use the SayTools from Jamal Mazrui
> > so that it's
> > > screen-reader independent (if the dragon scripts can interface 
> > > with SayTools that is).
> > >
> > > I think your quite right about where interfaces are going;
> > and once you
> > > consider this idea, have a look at the SmallTalk Ultra
> > being sold by GW,
> > > or it's generic counter-part from Oqo.  It's a fully
> > functional laptop
> > > computer (with a 120 gb hard drive or 64 gb solid-state drive), 
> > > that weighs around 1 pound and can clip to your belt.  It's got
> > Bluetooth and
> > > wifi built-in, and an optional ev-do card.  You could use a
> > bluetooth
> > > headset to talk to it and have it talk to you, wear it on
> > your belt, and
> > > go somewhere with your hands free and have your computer
> > available to
> > > you at any time.  Maybe even someone will develope some talking 
> > > GPS software for it????
> > >
> > > FYI, if this interests you, it's been told to me that you
> > can buy models
> > > with faster processor and more money from Oqo, or an Oqo
> > dealer, than
> > > the Ultra being sold by GW Micro, but I haven't verified this for 
> > > certain.  Perhaps GW would order you the same enhanced models if 
> > > you want; their thing is that they only sell it with a copy of
> > window eyes
> > > installed.
> > >
> > > I've seen it in use, with an omni-directional barcode
> > scanner attached,
> > > clipped to someone's belt, and using wifi and a free window
> > eyes script
> > > which let it lookup the scanned barcode on an internet
> > database and give
> > > you an instantaneous product description.  It was a very
> > impressive demo
> > > of what a computer without a keyboard can be used for.
> > >
> > > Nice brain-storming with you; please let me know if you come up 
> > > with anything along these lines.
> > >
> > > Chip
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Chip Orange
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> > > (850) 413-6314
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> > > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not 
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> > > Commission.)
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > >> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael 
> > >> Bullis
> > >> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:22 PM
> > >> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: [JAWSLite] Jaws Scripts for Dragon
> > >>
> > >> I'm sure this subject has come up many times and there is 
> > >> probably some obvious reason for why the proposal I'm going to 
> > >> make hasn't been done, but I'd sure like to know it.
> > >>
> > >> I recently began some experimentation with jsay, the commercial 
> > >> program that interfaces with Dragon Naturally Speaking.  Although 
> > >> the program has some nice features, I'm not sure it doesn't do 
> > >> far more than it needs to do and I'm troubled by the numerous 
> > >> times it seems to actually slow down my ability to use dragon.
> > >>
> > >> I've been a dragon user for a couple of years without jsay
> > or any jaws
> > >> scripts.  Yes, there are features I can't use as I would like, 
> > >> but, I do use the program fairly effectively.  What I'd really 
> > >> like are
> > simply a few
> > >> scripts that allow access to the Dragon bar more easily and to 
> > >> the correction box.  Jaws sometimes loses focus and can't read 
> > >> specific information dragon is trying to convey.  But, I'm not 
> > >> sure
> > creating an
> > >> entire interface as jsay does is really the answer.
> > >> So, I'm wondering why somebody doesn't just create some jaws 
> > >> scripts and sell them for a bit of cash.  I think that for the 
> > >> sighted as well as the blind the era is coming when most of us 
> > >> talk to our computers.  I don't think that the sighted public 
> > >> will type when there is an
> > alternative.
> > >> Dragon is much more user friendly than it has been in the past 
> > >> and training that use to be time consuming is now very very quick 
> > >> and easy.  Being able to put information on a page at 200 words a 
> > >> minute is really liberating, and I say that as someone who is a 
> > >> pretty fast typist.  But, I can't compete with Dragon.  
> > >> Furthermore, there is never a mis-spelled word with Dragon.
> > >> Yes, there are wrong words, but not mis-spelled ones.  Even this 
> > >> wrong word phenomena goes away once one learns how to tell Dragon
> > what you meant.
> > >>
> > >> So, are there some scripts out there that I just can't find?
> > >> Or, are there
> > >> some reasons that I'm not considering as to why scripts
> > haven't been
> > >> developed?
> > >> Mike Bullis
> > >> Baltimore Maryland
> > >>
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