[JAWSLite] Re: Fw: jaws update;

Well, I'd still want adequate testing done. I wouldn't want a fix to a 
minor bug to cause a regression in a significant feature. Also, even 
though these updates would require a lot less overhead than a major 
release, there's still the cost of building, testing, packaging, 
documenting, publishing, .... I wouldn't want FS to spend all of their 
resources on putting out these weekly updates and not have anything left 
over for the major releases. Not sure we're going to change each others 
minds, and I feel like I may be taking this issue further off topic, so 
I'll assume I may my point, although I don't necessarily expect anyone 
to agree.


RAWest wrote:
> I agree with you on this.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Trouble
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:06 PM
> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Fw: jaws update;
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> It don't have to be for new stuff. How about the little things that haven't
> ben thought of like, when installing software. yes, you can tab and items
> are spoken, but the info above that is not. Nice to have the answers but
> questions are important to. And how about box windows? So far the only one I
> heard so far is the one for jaws.
> Its the little things that have ben there and forgotten that could come out
> weekly, and new stuff would come as done.
> I think the users would like the product much more with that in
> consideration then waiting for the fix in a new release.
> At 03:41 PM 5/23/2008, you wrote:
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>> Weekly releases seem a bit too frequent to me. I don't know what the 
>> right interval would be, but I'd wonder how FS got enough testing in on 
>> each update if they were coming out every week. Just putting out a 
>> release involves a certain amount of overhead, and FS needs to figure 
>> out the right balance between more frequent releases and minimizing the 
>> overhead associated with testing and distributing each release.
>>
>> Trouble wrote:
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>>> Would rather see them come weekly or so, than 6 to 9 months down the 
>>> road like in a new release.
>>>
>>> At 02:28 PM 5/23/2008, you wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Personally I think FS could release updates every week if it were
>>>>         
> posible.
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>>>> There is nothing wrong with every free update we can get our
>>>>         
>> hands on in my
>>     
>>>> humble opinion.
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <KetchupBoy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 2:08 PM
>>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Fw: jaws update;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chip, the number of people using AVG is inexplicable but large. If 
>>>> something as basic as the anti-virus program causes JAWS to crash 
>>>> for a large number of users, it is really important for FS to get 
>>>> that fix out the door as quickly as possible. FS was just doing the 
>>>> right thing here, and everyone wants to accuse them of having some 
>>>> sort of agenda. When the check for update feature was announced, 
>>>> Eric Damery said on Main Menu that the plan was to put out frequent 
>>>> minor updates. This is what they are, in fact, doing. Someone give FS a
>>>>         
> little breathing room here!
>   
>>>> bruce
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>>>> On Fri, 23 May 2008, Chip Orange wrote:
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>>>>         
>>>>> Does this seem like a very few bug fixes to create a new release 
>>>>> for, especially since it's only been a month since the last one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't get me wrong, I'd like a new release every month, I just 
>>>>> have a feeling that there's some other reason not being 
>>>>> highlighted for this most recent release?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chip
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 
>>>>>> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rick Harmon
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 5:13 PM
>>>>>> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Fw: jaws update; =20
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>>>> From: david whitehead=20
>>>>>> To: blindtech=20
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:48 AM
>>>>>> Subject: jaws update;
>>>>>> =20
>>>>>> =20
>>>>>> =20
>>>>>> =20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Enhancements in JAWS 9.0.2169 (May 2008)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The following reported items were addressed in this update. 
>>>>>>> All=20 enhancements since the initial public beta release are=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> included in the=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JAWS
>>>>>>> list of 2 items
>>>>>>> . AVG Anti-Virus 8.0 software no longer fails when you start 
>>>>>>> the=20 application while JAWS is running.
>>>>>>> . Resolved an issue where several customers reported=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> installation error=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> #824 when trying to install JAWS after running some a=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> registry cleaner.=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> This problem
>>>>>>> no longer occurs with versions 9.0.2169 and later.
>>>>>>> list end
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AOL Instant Messenger
>>>>>>> list of 1 items
>>>>>>> . The aimhelper.jsh file is now again included with JAWS=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> 9.0. This file=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> refers to constants and global variables used by the AOL=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Instant Messenger=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>> file script.
>>>>>>> list end
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Microsoft Excel
>>>>>>> list of 1 items
>>>>>>> . JAWS now retains and reads column and row titles that you set 
>>>>>>> in=20 multiple Excel worksheets. Before, when you returned to 
>>>>>>> the=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> previous=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> worksheet, JAWS
>>>>>>> would not announce column and row titles (CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+C 
>>>>>>> and=20
>>>>>>> CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+R).
>>>>>>> list end
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Microsoft Internet Explorer
>>>>>>> list of 2 items
>>>>>>> . After selecting the Skip to Content link on the Social 
>>>>>>> Security=20 Administration Web page, JAWS now consistently moves 
>>>>>>> to the=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> next link when=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> you press TAB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> . When you press ENTER to turn Forms Mode off, it now turns=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> off as the Web=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> page refreshes and updates.
>>>>>>> list end
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Microsoft Office
>>>>>>> list of 1 items
>>>>>>> . JAWS no longer repeats the column and row information=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> when navigating by=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> line (UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW) in a one row, one column table.
>>>>>>> list end
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Microsoft Outlook
>>>>>>> list of 3 items
>>>>>>> . When moving through a menu tree list of folders in Outlook, 
>>>>>>> JAWS=20 correctly announces folder names as you use the ARROW 
>>>>>>> keys=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> to navigate the=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> list. Earlier,
>>>>>>> JAWS would say scroll down symbol or scroll up symbol=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> instead of the=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> folder name.
>>>>>>> . When navigating the list of folders in the Move Items dialog 
>>>>>>> box=20
>>>>>>> (CTRL+SHIFT+V) and the Copy Items dialog box=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> (CTRL+SHIFT+Y), JAWS no=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> longer announces
>>>>>>> blank as you move from one folder to another.
>>>>>>> . E-mail messages no longer close when you select and copy=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> message text=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> using the APPLICATION Key's Copy command.
>>>>>>> list end
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Microsoft PowerPoint
>>>>>>> list of 1 items
>>>>>>> . JAWS correctly reads text that is typed into PowerPoint=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> edit fields (for=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> example, the File name field in the Open dialog box) when=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> you use the Say=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Line
>>>>>>> command (INSERT+UP ARROW). Previously, JAWS would announce blank.
>>>>>>> list end
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Microsoft Word
>>>>>>> list of 2 items
>>>>>>> . JAWS now announces the Word Count dialog box statistics=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> when you press=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> ALT+T, W in Word 2007 or Word 2003 documents.
>>>>>>> . JAWS now recognizes and announces when text wraps to the=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> next line in=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> any text editor, word processor, or Web page when using the Say 
>>>>>>> All=20 command with the read new line character function turned 
>>>>>>> on. The User Reads Text=20 Containing New Line Character check 
>>>>>>> box is in the Text=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Processing dialog=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> box of the
>>>>>>> Configuration Manager. When it is selected, JAWS announces=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> the words new=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> line while reading and moving to the next line of text in=20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> sentences and=20
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> paragraphs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> list end
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =20
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
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