[JAWSLite] Re: FW: Freedom Suing GW Micro

For the record I'm not in favor  of this lawsuit.  Having said that, I'll 
remind everyone what this list is for.  It's for the discussion of using 
Jaws on the PC and about how to use products with Jaws.  It's not for the 
discussion of legal matters or for the bashing of any products.  Anyone that 
can't stick to the guidelines of the list should consider perhaps joining 
other lists where these kind of things are allowed.

Sorry some of you out there don't agree with me.  But that's the way it is 
and we'll all be fine when all is said and done.

Rick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: FW: Freedom Suing GW Micro


> sorry to see you go,
>
> inthane
> . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and 
> Links
> to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
> . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming
> languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
> http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
> . for a blind user friendly Chat, go take a look at:
> http://www.icedirc.com/
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:59 PM
> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: FW: Freedom Suing GW Micro
>
>
>> Well, if things are always supposed to be warm and fuzzy and we can't 
>> have
>> any views other than cheers and applause for everything, then I'd say 
>> it's
>> very one-sided. I don't for a minute consider what I said to be bashing.
>>
>> Why is it that as blind consumers, we think we have to swallow and like
>> everything adaptive technology companies do? Why is it that we are in a
>> culture where we have to act like everything is always great and always
>> will
>> be? In general, why do we tend to praise products even when we know they
>> wouldn't fly in a sighted market? I'm not saying Jaws is one of those, it
>> isn't. But in the blindness world, that is a tendency I have seen. Always
>> be
>> grateful for anything, and be beholden to the companies who charge the 
>> big
>> bucks. Never say a bad word or express a disagreeing view. Companies
>> sometimes are out of line in all walks of life. If this list is so
>> close-minded, then so be it. I'm not going to wave the FS flag on this
>> one.
>>
>> I respect your position as moderator, so am leaving the list. I try to be
>> an
>> informed consumer, and being informed means knowing the good and the bad.
>>
>> Take care all, and thanks to everyone for the tips and help over the
>> years.
>> I hope I have been able to help others on occasion as well.
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>  "An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how
>> much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know
>> and
>> what you don't. It's knowing where to go to find out what you need to
>> know;
>> and it's knowing how to use the information you get."
>> --William Feather
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:37 PM
>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: FW: Freedom Suing GW Micro
>>
>>
>> Gene,
>>
>> Whether or not we like FS isn't relevent on this list.  No bashing of
>> companies will be tolerated here.
>>
>> Rick Harmon
>> List Owner
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jean Menzies" <jemenzies@xxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:50 PM
>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: FW: Freedom Suing GW Micro
>>
>>
>>> Well, I don't think this should be off topic at all. It will impact us 
>>> as
>>> Jaws users no matter how it ends. Too often we sit with our heads in the
>>> perverbial sand, and this is information we all should know in order to
>>> make
>>> informed decisions about a company we may choose or not choose to do
>>> business with in the future based on actions it takes.
>>>
>>> I find the actions of FS very distasteful in this matter based on the
>>> very
>>> little information I have. However, if my stating this means I should
>>> then
>>> leave this list, I will. I don't like this kind of behaviour, and I 
>>> doubt
>>> if
>>> FS will ever see a penny of mine again for this and other reasons.
>>>
>>> Disgustedly,
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>>  "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of
>>> thinking we were at when we created them."
>>> --Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Cc: <jfw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:56 AM
>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] FW: Freedom Suing GW Micro
>>>
>>>
>>> I thought the JAWS users would be as interested in this development as
>>> anyone.
>>>
>>> It looks to me like blind users are the obvious losers here, if as is
>>> claimed, capabilities of a screen reader can be patented so that no
>>> other products to aid blind users can make use of them. =20
>>>
>>> Absolutely, unbelievable, and what a loss for us all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: gw-news@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gw-news@xxxxxxxxxxx]=20
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:42 PM
>>>> To: gw-news@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: Freedom Suing GW Micro
>>>>=20
>>>> Doug recently posted a very interesting blog entry that you=20
>>>> should read:
>>>>=20
>>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/2008/07/24/do_compan
>>>> ies_really_compete_on_who_has_t
>>>>=20
>>>> Aaron
>>>> --=20
>>>> To insure that you receive proper support, please include all past
>>>> correspondence (where applicable), and any relevant information
>>>> pertinent to your situation when submitting a problem report to the=
>>> GW
>>>> Micro Technical Support Team.
>>>>=20
>>>> Aaron Smith
>>>> GW Micro
>>>> Phone: 260/489-3671
>>>> Fax: 260/489-2608
>>>> WWW: http://www.gwmicro.com
>>>> FTP: ftp://ftp.gwmicro.com
>>>> Technical Support & Web Development
>>>> The gw-news list is an announce only list used for GW Micro=20
>>>> news and product information.
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
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