[JAWSLite] Re: Cross posting

Please don't leave Rick! I appreciate your moderation of this list. You 
know how many people are subscribed to this list, and I think only two 
people have complained about your message on cross posting. No matter 
what you do as a moderator, and I think this is more of a question of 
human nature, you're going to get a few people who disagree. I was just 
about to drop the list a posting lauding your stand on limiting the 
cross posting to this list, but I saw this message before I got to 
composing that message. I for one really, and I mean really, appreciate 
a well moderated list, and I think you do a great job! Poorly moderated 
lists are a huge waste of time! I'm not sure how much my opinion counts, 
but I for one want you to stay!

On the subject of cross posting, I just did some research and the stand 
on cross posting seems to have become more relaxed over time, which 
really surprised me. I did a search on Yahoo! using the string "email 
etiquette cross posting", and the consensus seems to be to refrained 
from cross posting unless you're talking about a few closely related 
lists. IMHO, you shouldn't even post the same message to closely related 
lists because chances are the same people are going to be on all of 
those lists, and they don't want to see the same message multiple times. 
I know this is how I feel.

On the question of why the "carbon copy" field exists, I would claim 
that we're talking about an email client, which is obviously used to do 
more than just post to a mailing list. IMHO, it's obviously used when 
you want to send the same message to more than one individual. that 
doesn't also mean it was put there so you could send the same message to 
multiple lists. Besides, just because the field is there doesn't mean 
you have to use it!

I also don't understand the statement "beside why write 3 or more emails 
to lists when one will do with the rest in the address field that is 
made for it. that is called bad etiquette." I think the reason cross 
posting is frowned upon isn't just because of the use of the CC field, 
but it's so you don't waste people's time by sending them multiple 
copies of the same message. The answer isn't to avoid using the CC field 
but rather not to send the same message to multiple lists.

One final point, I filter my messages, and I still consider cross 
posting to be in bad etiquette, so it isn't true that the only people 
who consider it bad etiquette are those who don't filter their messages. 
I may not be as smart as the person who made that statement, but I don't 
know how to use filters to eliminate the duplicate messages I get when 
someone cross posts, at least not without running the risk of losing the 
message altogether. I've seen people reply to the sender and put the 
list in the CC field. Besides, there's no reason someone could specify 
multiple recipients in the To field and cross post without ever using 
the CC field.

Rick Harmon wrote:
> fine guys, I'm fed up with this list.  let someone else run it.  I can't 
> ever seem to do anything right here and all you guys do is complain about my 
> decisions.
>
> Anyone wanting this list and the blind windows list and the jaws scripts 
> list please contact me.  I'll gladly give it up to another owner.
>
> Rick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:43 PM
> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Cross posting
>
>
> never heard it bad etiquette except from those that don't and won't
> learn how to filter there mail. Its not called carbon copy for
> nothing, and beside why write 3 or more emails to lists when one will
> do with the rest in the address field that is made for it. that is
> called bad etiquette.
>
> At 08:24 PM 8/28/2008, you wrote:
>   
>> shrug, have it your way, I just hope it does not make some folks not send 
>> in
>> stuff to lists due to there being required by this to copy, create 5 to 8 
>> or
>> more separate Emails and paste it into each, it may be considered bad list
>> etiquette in general to use the cc field, I don't see much in the why of 
>> it,
>> but making someone's conveyance of news, more difficult instead of using a
>> feature that was put there for that general purpose seems impolite as well?
>>
>> regards,
>> inthane
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:35 PM
>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Cross posting
>>
>>
>>     
>>> Inthane,
>>>
>>> no offense taken at all.  All I'm trying to say is don't do multiple 
>>> lists
>>> in one  CC.  You can send these messages here, but don't send to ten 
>>> lists
>>> at one time.  This is poor email etiquette and most list owners frown on
>>>       
>> it.
>>     
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Rick
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 5:35 PM
>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Cross posting
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick,
>>>
>>> I will qualify this with the fact that I don't know which messages in
>>> particular your referring to, but may I point out that some items effect
>>> many if not all users of something, so are best posted to all the lists
>>>       
>> one
>>     
>>> is on, seeing as there are users on one list that are not on others; and
>>> that some items are concerned with both lists main thrust, and again, 
>>> have
>>> different folks on them so one may be able to get an answer on one list
>>>       
>> but
>>     
>>> not the other, and the sender never knows where they will find that
>>>       
>> answer.
>>     
>>> I have seen many posts to lists that are entirely off topic, but 
>>> generally
>>> if you tell them so, as you usually politely do, and let them know where
>>> they may find the answer they need, most of them have joined that list
>>> without a problem, many apologizing either in advance or in a last 
>>> reply.
>>>
>>> I hope you will consider this as a friendly listing of notes concerning
>>>       
>> this
>>     
>>> statement, and not as an attack on you, its not meant as "an assault",
>>> inthane
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Rick Harmon" <rharmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:18 PM
>>> Subject: [JAWSLite] Cross posting
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>> I've noticed severl members here cross posting messages to this list.
>>>>         
>>> This is not acceptable here. I would appreciate that it not be done on
>>>       
>> this
>>     
>>> list please.
>>>       
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Rick
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>
> Tim
> trouble
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