[JAWSLite] Re: Be careful of Google Desktop!

Thanks Brian for your help, but unfortunately, just because you can add
an extension to the list, it doesn't mean the indexer can read it.  In
order to read the contents of a given file type, the vista indexer needs
an "I-filter" for that type, and it does not have them for PDF or CHM
files.  You can add them to the list of file types as you point out, but
it accomplishes nothing.

Below is from:

http://www.build6000.com/content/view/692/65/


"While this is fine for these file types, I happen to have a large
library of IT reference books stored as other document types, such as
.PDF and .CHM. As Windows Vista search does not index the contents of
these files it is a manual effort to open each file and continue the
search within the file itself. A slight problem if you have more than a
couple of hundred documents (or reference books, yes I should get out
more). So luckily for people who work with document and file types that
are not covered by the default iFilters, you can add additional filters.
"




This site has links to various I-filters you can download and install in
order to bring the vista indexer closer in capabilities to Google
Desktop.  On my Vista pc, I will investigate switching over from Google
desktop to the Vista indexer to see if I can add my network attached
storage drive for indexing.  I can't seem to get Google desktop to index
it under Vista, and since it's got 250 gb worth of data, that's a big
inconvenience (I don't know why since I've got it indexed using my xp
laptop ... oh well ...).

hth,

Chip





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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission

Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314

 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Lee
> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 4:24 PM
> To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Be careful of Google Desktop!
> 
> You are exactly right.  Google Desktop certainly beats XP searching 
> capabilities.  I do want to mention though that for those 
> using Vista, chm 
> files are included in the indexing.  If a file type is not 
> being indexed in 
> Vista, it can easily be added to the indexer.  Here are the steps:
> 
> 1. Open the control panel from the Windows start menu.
> 2.  Type the word "index" (without the quotes) into the search box.
> 3.  Tab to Indexing Options and press enter.
> 4. Tab to the Advanced button and press enter.  If you are 
> prompted for an 
> administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide 
> confirmation.
> 5. Use shift-tab to move to the page tabs and right arrow to 
> the files of 
> type page.
> 6.   Tab to the list of file types.  There are 766 listed in 
> the list on my 
> system.  You can arrow down and check or uncheck the various 
> types.  You can 
> also tab to an edit box and type in a file type not listed.  
> After typing in 
> a new extension then tab to the Add new Extension button and 
> activate it.
> 7.  There are also a group of radio buttons that allow you to 
> choose to 
> index only the properties or the properties and file content.
> 
> Merry Christmas to everyone on the list!  I hope the new year 
> is a good one 
> for all of you!
> 
> Brian Lee
> brianllee@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 10:48 AM
> Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Be careful of Google Desktop!
> 
> 
> Brian,
> 
> This is a good point; but for some reason, it only happens 
> when outlook
> is first started; each time you return to the outlook window 
> it is then
> focused correctly.
> 
> I will go investigate the Vista indexer, but there are still many many
> people on xp, and I think Google desktop is quite useful to them.
> 
> I guess I'll need to go trackdown an article comparing it to vista
> indexer, especially to see how many file types vista indexer 
> will index.
> One of the nice features of google desktop is that with an optional
> component, it will index .chm files, and I've got a lot of e-books in
> that format.
> 
> thanks.
> 
> Chip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Chip Orange
> Database Administrator
> Florida Public Service Commission
> 
> Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> (850) 413-6314
> 
>  (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian Lee
> > Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:27 PM
> > To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Be careful of Google Desktop!
> >
> > The Vista indexer does handle E-mails by default.  You can
> > also set the
> > indexer to include everything on the hard drive or whatever
> > specific folders
> > you want indexed.  I have not had much experience using
> > Google desktop, but
> > one of my clients has complained that every time she starts
> > her E-mail and
> > thinks that her system is focused in the E-mail list, she
> > notices that she
> > is not and that the Google Desktop takes focus.  She can use
> > Alt-tab to move
> > to her list of E-mail messages but this is kind of 
> frustrating to her.
> >
> > Brian Lee
> > brianllee@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 7:01 AM
> > Subject: [JAWSLite] Re: Be careful of Google Desktop!
> >
> >
> > I have to say I have google desktop on an xp laptop and a
> > vista laptop,
> > and don't have any issues with either.  I much prefer the
> > google search
> > interface.  I also am not sure that the vista indexer handles emails
> > like google desktop does.
> >
> > Yes, when you first install google desktop it can slow down
> > things a bit
> > while it does the initial index.  If you bring up your list 
> of systray
> > icons with insert+f10, you can pause the indexing for google
> > desktop, or
> > stop it altogether, until you're able to let it run overnight.
> >
> > hth,
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Chip Orange
> > Database Administrator
> > Florida Public Service Commission
> >
> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > (850) 413-6314
> >
> >  (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:jawslite-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > > Christopher Collins
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:29 AM
> > > To: jawslite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [JAWSLite] Be careful of Google Desktop!
> > >
> > > Hello to all:
> > >
> > > I wanted to tell you about a problem I had with my computer
> > > which began a
> > > couple weeks ago.  I started noticing that my computer was
> > > not responding
> > > as fast as before, but worst of all, when I would turn on
> > my computer,
> > > sometimes JAWS would not come up or start at all, and I would
> > > have to shut
> > > down even a few times to get it to start.  So after I told
> > > myself to calm
> > > down and not panick, I started trying to think about any
> > > changes I could
> > > have possibly  made.  I also downloaded and installed the
> > > latest update to
> > > the RealNetworks Rhapsody Music Service.  At that time, I
> > was prompted
> > > about whether I wanted to install Google Desktop, and I
> > inadvertantly
> > > clicked Yes.  And then I thought, "Well, why not try it?"  It
> > > finally hit
> > > me that this program is indexing my computer in order to
> > > allow its searches
> > > and that it probably needs to start before anything else.  I
> > > uninstalled it
> > > on Saturday, and I have been fine ever since.  And a friend
> > > told me tonight
> > > that if you haveWindows Fista on your machine, you definitly
> > > don't want
> > > Google Desktop since that functionality is already a component of
> > > Vista.  If Google Desktop is currently on your computer, I
> > > advise that you
> > > uninstall it.
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