Hi Val, John here I used to be a Mcaffee user and I got put off by them messages that you described I found sometimes Jaws was OK with them there was other times when I had to use the Jaws cursor to find the message and also there were times when it was too graphical for Jaws cursor to read anything and if it did, it didn't always find the information there first time every time. Just that put me off I now am a Norton Internet Surcurity 2005 user and the good things about it, every dialog is available and easy for Jaws to read, if Jaws doesn't see the file name or it is off the screan you can click on details in the norton pop up question window and this will bring the information up and also included in this will be the name of the program and what it's trying to do and then it tells you what it wants to do and what could happen if you was to let that go through I just thought I'd add my comments on it. OK speak to you later from John and guide dog Iris E-mail and MSN: johnathanrichards@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Brown" <val17@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 5:39 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: macafee security Hi Kevin, thanks for the information. If I had taken in what I had read previously about 'insert f11' I wouldn't have needed to ask but unfortunately the old brain seems to be wearing out. Have used 'insert f11' and have successfully dealt with the download. It was driving me crazy - every time I powered up, there was a bell sound and half of any text I was reading was being obscured by the silly message telling me that there was an update. It didn't seem to want to do anything but now, thank goodness, it has disappeared. Thanks once again for your help. Regards Val Brown -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:23 PM To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: macafee security Hi Val. Insert + F11 will get you into the system tray. You can then use your up and down arrow keys to move through the list of items. Tabbing once when an item is highlighted will place you on the right mouse click button which will often open up a context menu and tabbing once more will put you on the left mouse click button which often will fire up the application. Regards. Kevin E-mail: kevin.lloyd3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Brown" <val17@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 7:18 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: macafee security Sorry to show my ignorance, but how do I get into the System Tray to download the virus checker update? Regards Val Brown -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of francis Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 11:07 AM To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] macafee security how does one update macaffe security usiing the system tray also how does one get the latest windows update also using system tray because I am being told that there are ready and that I need to click but when I do nothing happens visit my website www.francisrwama.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectúq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectúq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq