What about the difference in price for jaws between the U K and the U S how can that be justified _____ From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:06 PM To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws pricing Amie, how many do they employ? Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amie Slavin Sent: 20 October 2010 15:18 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws pricing Graham, are you saying that it is alright to flagrantly over-charge customers if that's what's needed to keep the suppliers' employees pensions and perks up to scratch? Considering we're always told how the prices are due to the small size of the market, these suppliers seem to employ a fierce lot of people. Would you suggest a similar rationale to a mainstream supplier? Certainly agree with you otherwise, though;no question. A From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page Sent: 20 October 2010 12:44 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws pricing Amie, that's not entirely fair. Theese companies do have to develop products and they have to test them. In order to do this people have to be paid a decent living wage. If companies do not get support or grants then they do have to get the money to pay their costs from somewhere. I actually think we need more companies to take the Apple approach where accessibility is built into products rather than requiring outside companies to have to make an inaccessible system work. They should at least be forced to create an freely available way of gaining access to the operating system, office suite or whatever. I certainly agree in principal that it is morally wrong and deeply unfair that as blind people we have to pay more to access things that other people get for free. This is not asking for something for nothing, but the question is how to best make products accessible most effectively. This is a good example of where legislation is needed in my view. The free market means survival of the fittest. Speech or Braille access is not widely needed. Blind people are therefore never going to be served by a totally free market. For whatever reason, few companies choose to include accessibility into their products and the question is how can we force companies to include accessibility into what they make and I believe the answer probably lies in law and appropriate regulation. Regards Graham probabl Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amie Slavin Sent: 20 October 2010 11:55 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws pricing Rip-off either way, just like all access tech'. Cynical milking of blind cash cows...imho, only :o) A From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: 20 October 2010 11:26 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws pricing Glass half full: Professional is the normal cost and you can get a discount by using a home version of the windows OS. On 20/10/2010 09:59, Amro Bilal wrote: Yes, Jaws pro is a total rip off, and I feel it's more like, they sat me on a spike and I know it! Lots of ifs, but, if you are going to use this MSDN AA for a limited period of time, and you have a spare computer which you can put a pro MS product on it, you could use Jaws in forty minute mode on that spare machine. Otherwise, I am afraid I can see a free spike next to me here or you can join Tiddy's barrel, which ever you prefer. Sorry about the dry sense of humour this morning! Cheers, Amro ----- Original Message ----- From: Tiddy Ogg <mailto:oggy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 8:26 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: jaws pricing I think we all agree that Jaws Professional is a rip-off, but they've got you over a barrel and know it. If you want/need to use the MS professional products, you're stuck with having to use Jaws professional, unless you can find some alternative screen reader. and this isn't the place to discuss such things without getting your knuckles rapped for going off topic. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: 20 October 2010 08:12 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] jaws pricing hi. why is it going to cost me $708 to upgrade from the jaws stadnard to jaws pro plus sma. which way should i go. just that i am doing a online help desk course, and the msdn aa subscription i have subscribed to, apart from windows 2003 stadnard, all windows xp, vista and 7 are professional. so i need jaws pro to use these software. please advice, what i should do. got till november 18 to place my order with quantum technology in sydney, australia. marvin. No virus found in this incoming message. 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