Hi, you don't have to use narrator if you want to avoid that problem when using first part of the installation, there's a trick that works and you don't have to unload jaws. If you locate the spybot installation .exe file, go to properties, choose compatibility tab, there you will see a checkbox saying something like "run this program in compatibility for" then from combo box choose windows 98/me, click apply then OK and the installation should go fine without needing to unload jaws. HTH. Vanja MSN messenger: sudar23@xxxxxxxxxxx AIM: vanja121 Skype: vanja121 http://www.sudar.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Muir To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Spyware Hi, Folks, I'm looking for a good spyware program as I don't really want to use Spybot, being unwilling to have to use Narrator to get past the first stages. Incidentally, when will FS decide to give us scripts for this? I am finding so many threats with Ad-aware that I feel there must be plenty of spyware on my PC too. Any help would be gratefully received. Best wishes, Joan.