[jaws-uk] Re: Reading an attachment

I'm not really sure how far I can be of help here because I'm thinking jaws
could be reading all sorts of things.  If for example jaws is reading
grammar changes, you could try turning this off in the verbosity options as
I've said and you can disable this feature in word itself.  In the days when
I used to work, I personally didn't like reading revisions, track changes
and so on.  For some people who like this feature, fine, but I personally
didn't.  You have to decide for yourself how you like jaws to react when
reading documents.  For those who say jaws is really flexible in its current
version when it comes to treating how documents are to be read, that's fine.
However, the other side of the coin is to say well I really don't need all
this feature ritch usability of a screenreader if all I want is to open up a
document and read it.  Then again, it could be argued that all that someone
may need is word viewer.  I haven't tried this so I don't know whether or
not jaws will use the microsoft word feature ritch scripts when using this
particular program.

In my own opinion, there are things I like and things I don't, it depends.
However, for someone who maybe only wants to read a document without knowing
how it has been revised, updated, call it anything you will, perhaps all the
major screenreaders are, for some users, more complex than is necessary for
their needs.  However, you could try, as I said before, to see if disabling
the check for spelling errors and gramatical errors in the verbosity
settings will help.  Jaws 9 has changed this somewhat to appear like a tree
structure, and you need to look for the edit options to see how jaws
currently treats these.  If they are on, press space bar to turn them off.
However, if you are reading superscript characters, as Brian suggested, than
that is another matter.

Finally, it doesn't do any harm to look at the jaws help topics for
particular applications to get a full list of the various jaws commands and
options available to you.  I'm actually preaching to myself about this one,
because it does happen to me, that the last place I look at to try and solve
the problem I may be having at the time is the help section of jaws.

Alex
skype name: grytpype2006
windows live messenger name: alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
Sent: 29 June 2008 20:57
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading an attachment


 Hi I experimented by  printing the attachment off, then scanning it in
using my Ocr, removed all punctuation  no luck moved from one Engine to
another  but  although the Recognitions do not read the Empty para and other
unwanted material in a high pitched voice of course it reads  it.  I didn't
bother to export it using  Rich text Format  or scan direct into Word
because it will not solve the problem, I  suppose I can try what you suggest
but I am not sure I can do it. My Ocr I used before I ever signed up to an
Isp and am more at home adjusting settings. However I wonder if the Sender
is at fault also,because the first   claimed to have an attachment and did
not,just yards of disclaimers and their Website Dorothy
----- Original Message -----
From: "alex thynne" <alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:41 AM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading an attachment


> Dorothy you are not telling us what program you are using to read the
> document.  If it is word, then there are things you can do in the
> verbosity
> settings on a temporary basis to stop jaws from reading these, or
> configuration manager.  You can even tell Word, if it is word, to ignore
> grammar changes but I would rather not tell you how to do this in the
> event
> that the version you are using is not mine.  I'm using microsoft word in
> Office 2000.
>
> Alex
> skype name: grytpype2006
> windows live messenger name: alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban
> Sent: 29 June 2008 11:13
> To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading an attachment
>
>
> Hi  It is odd at first they sent in what they said was an attachment but I
> ploughed through it all and it was pages of Legal stuff you know what I
> mean, I replied  where is the attachment and I also sent them a clip from
> Outlaw, George picked it out the other day  it is worth reading,  because
> the business of all this   Legalstuff   takes yards of reading and most of
> it  is
> meaningless. So they sent me the attachment  and that is when I got all
> this
> "empty para and other comments Jaws seems to be  commenting on the  layout
> and treating it as a word document, but  since it is one I have not  typed
> myself,should Jaws be doing this? It started at the time Jaws began
> saying
> "superscript also in high pitch voice. e ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Lingard" <b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:35 AM
> Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Reading an attachment
>
>
>> Ottawa Canada
>>
>> Dear Dorothy and list:
>>
>> I don't know what program is grumbling about the grammatical
>> errors in your received e-mail, but it isn't JAWS that is
>> checking for grammatical errors, although it would be JAWS that
>> is speaking the results of some other program's grammar check.
>>
>> Brian
>> Brian K. Lingard
>> E-mail: b.lingard@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Tel: +1 (613) 247-0665
>> Mobile: +1 (613) 725-6602
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>> This message composed on Dell laptop.
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