Susan, thanks for that information, I am hooked now. Do you find a particular brand better than another? I think I could do with a couple, I will try to ask some one to show me how to use the first one. amazing to think they can save so much. I have on my desktop a DVR writer. but on laptop a DVREader. but these Pens sound so useful. By the way looking at the Post above yours."not so flawless, I am still not going to tinker around yet. I should be sent Version 8 in due course. I will watch this space and get feedback. Thanks again for your help. Dorothy. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq